Daihatsu Yonex JAPAN Open 2019 : Round of 32 to FINAL (23-28 July)

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  1. Yoji

    Yoji Regular Member

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    I dont even think Hendra is better than Kevin even if he has 3WC and 1OG. What Kevin achieves is out of the world, he is consistency machine. Hendra cant even win 7/8SS when he is 24.FHF i dont know, never see his stats other than his total SS stands at 14.
     
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    That's quite disrespectful towards Hendra and FHF both.
     
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    Everyone supported the Aussie guy. Thats why i never look just 1 tournament. These things always happen even if its already in the past.
     
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    I think achievement is unfair judgment because title wins depends on the competition. One can argue that during Hendra Era competition is harder with Matthias Boe, LYD yys, fhf, and few more.
    It is always a very tough comparing players from different period
     
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    You must mean Kevin is much luckier or blessed than Hendra or FHF.
     
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    Maybe its the way he stands out among other people. His flamboyance and all the stuffs plus he is much more entertaining with all those crazy shots. Excellence bordering on arrogance.
     
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    It's obvious to me that Jonatan after the mid-game interval in G2 was visibly shaken, a beaten man, lost his confidence and inner belief to go down tamely.

    In fact, throughout most of the match JC felt he had to do that little extra and go for the lines, thus increasing his margin for errors, thanks largely to Momota's remarkable anticipation and fine attacking shots, both smashes and drop shots, at just the right time.
     
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    there are huuuge difference between open tournament (SS/WT) and Oly/WC.

    If you win an open tournament, they will give you money as reward.
    if you win Oly/WC they will play your national anthem as reward.

    So, what do you think is more rewarding, getting money or force spectators to silence and listening to your anthem??
     
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    That depends on the individual really. But usually badminton players value their country's pride more than money.
     
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    Most countries give a lifetime pension and/or a monetary reward to their Olympics medalists.

    Besides, an olympic medal means a lot of positive repercussions afterwards, more media coverage, new sponsors or contract renegotiation, advertisement income through promotional video or events, etc.
     
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    Where did I say SS tournaments are not important ? To be exact,I'm claiming not all top tier tournaments are created equal, and certainly lower tier events are what they are and for a reason.

    Money-wise, the WC and OG may not come with prize money, the medals notwithstanding, but we do know what the world titlist and gold medallist get from their government and private sponsors. Say, LCW, imagine the awards and rewards that would be showered on him, how he'd be feted like a national hero, nay, treated like a King, and a public holiday declared in his honor, and all sorts of offers thrown at him, and so on and so forth.

    As for S100 or even S300 events, how many top 10 players skip them, if not for the OG QF period ?

    Anyway, we've both made our point, enough said.
     
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    Indeed, talk is cheap and , in his case as well as the western media's, it's lowdown and dirty without having to back it up with any evidence. Even if Sun Yang is found guilty, it's only him. As if other countries never have doping cases and scandals.

    It's as if he were to say, because LCW was caught doping, the whole MAS team must be too. It's called tarring with the same brush.
     
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    That's a bit off topic, isn't it.
     
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    Yeah the Olympic is huge but even so, they can make lots of money from SS. They are already so famous. I would say that the Olympic repercussions is important but is of less important than 10-15 years ago. There are more avenues to make money other than perks that come with winning OG these days. Still, its a dream of any athlete. However as time goes like tennis its of less importance.

    WC? not even sure why the WC is introduced. its like saying its the only title worth winning in a year if you cant win other titles? or maybe its an excuse if you cant perform in other tournaments. you can see what the WC brings in swimming...let alone in badminton. too much suspects.
     
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    My point is i wouldnt lump OG together with WC

    WC at best is Super1250 tournament. To me, its Super1000 tournament. so 4 of them a year is created equal.
     
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    Stop. even kevin would tell you that hendra is better than him. hendra is probably the best MD player that indonesia ever produced.
     
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    Shouldn't you be saying that to Yoji ?
     
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    That statement might inspire a different kind of arguments here..
     
  19. Justin L

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    You mean , being called World Champion or Olympic Champion doesn't mean that much? Tell that to all the WC contenders or Olympians, esp those who would give an arm and a leg to win it. Most of all, ask LCW.

    For tennis, Roger Federer, the GOAT of tennis and multiple Grand Slams titlist , has made it a point to play and try to win an Olympic gold medal, the only trophy missing in his unmatched CV. And he's not the only tennis greats to do so.
     
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    This is getting very off-topic, but Federer does have olympic gold medal.
     
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