Lin Dan ( 林丹 )

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  1. samkool

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    it's a different kind of physicality. the game was slower back then so stamina is key. however, every sport gets faster and faster as time goes by. there is a need for more explosive strength on top of stamina nowadays. i'd say her remarks are half right.
     
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    I think Lin Dan has decent shot at beating Momota this time. He is well rested, playing in front of home crowd and against a player who just achieved his main goal for this year. Last year Momota's performance clearly dropped after world championships, or rather was going downhill already since Thomas Cup. I would say Lin Dan has 40% chance of winning this one.
     
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    LD withdrew from Belarus International. Surprise, surprise...
     
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    I think it has more to do with the old scoring system of 15-point on serve where you only score point when holding serve, otherwise it's just 'service over', so it's very common for service to change hands several times before a point is scored, unlike the present 21-point on rally system.

    I vaguely recall a certain men's singles match, mind you singles, not doubles, involving Foo Kok Keong, if my memory serves me right (can't remember his opponent's name) which lasted more than two-and-a-half hours (150 mins !), a record for the longest match in history. Exhausting, just thinking about it, no wonder stamina and endurance quite often comes to the fore under that scoring system.
     
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    After facing Momota in R1 at CO. LD will face SYQ in R1 at KO.
    What a draw..
     
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    It's a mix of the scoring system and several unrelated parameters changing. Players have gotten more explosive, rackets have gotten better, there is a marked difference between 2006 and 2019 under the current scoring system. In my opinion, that is a more important factor than the scoring system change, as offensive players had started to dominate even before that change, I do not remember a real change of the guard just because of the different scoring where previously less successful players shot up in the rankings or vice versa, but I didn't follow badminton back then and haven't researched the developments extensively, I have to admit. However, LD dominated games in both systems back then, I think the difference was almost marginal.
    I will say that in very close matches, more enduring players probably had a bigger advantage back then, but I think the vast majority of matches isn't close enough for this to be a dominant issue, and I do prefer the current system with its more predictable/consistent match length and definite end after a maximum of 59 rallies per game. Unending matches are almost universally not very attractive towards the end, more of a grind than a show, and detrimental to player health (Djokovic vs Nadal at the Australian Open comes to mind).
     
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    I don't think Shi yuqi can beat Lindan now. He is just now coming back from injury. Lindan is a task master. He will make him move all around the court in order to get the shuttle back. It is extremely difficult when your body is not fully fit to jump all around.
     
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    LD lost against Prannoy at the WC, I don't think SYQ needs close to 100% to beat him....
     
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    SYQ was at his 100% when he lost to LD at Malaysia open this year


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    Lin Dan at Malaysia Open 2019 was something else. Always on the offense!
     
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    True. And that's what we'll also say of the new scoring system of 5 games of 11 points come after 2020 Tokyo OG.

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    Nah, **** that. That system is hot garbage and I'll have much less fun if we're forced to switch - I won't stop playing just because of it, but it's certainly going to be one more entry in a growing list of reasons to play less and less.
     
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    Not only that, he showed glimpses of his former prowess. Alas, it's becoming harder and harder and such inspired moments are few and far between as age - he is about one month shy of 36 now - is taking a heavy toll on him.
     
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    I am expecting a straight set defeat against Momota and Shi Yuqi. You?
     
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    It still uncertainty that Shi YQ will take part KOR Open, most likely he would miss this tournament.
     
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    I understand both matches will be played in R1 when Lin Dan starts fresh against Momota in China Open and Shi Yuqi in KOR Open. I do feel he has a better chance against SYQ as the latter is just back from injury and probably not fully match-fit whereas Momota is in his prime and in excellent form, so er...um...well, I won't bet on him beating Momota. But if he is to do so, I agree he must take it in two straight sets for obvious reasons, a three-setter will stretch him physically.
     
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    Lin Dan will face Momota again R2 in Denmark Open. He's like a magnet to Momota in many tournaments :D
     
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    R2 is a far fetched thought


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