Super Series Finals So Far...in 2007

frankly, did you watch how they lost today?? it's the same as how they trash CY/FHF 21-5 in asian games. but now it's their turn.

 

There are always up and down for every player or pair. hcyong's point is simple - don't write KKK/TBH off now just like we didn't write CY/FHF off in the past (e.g., between Oct'06 and Mar'07, CY/FHF failed to win a single title in 5 consecutive touarnaments!). KKK/TBH disappointed everyone yesterday because they lost to a pair whom they defeated three times in a row; but the pair they lost to is after all the world champion and world No.1. KKK/TBH is still one of the top pairs in the world. But they do need to improve themselves, just like what CY/FHF did since Sweden SS.

Anyway, Jack, I understand your worry. KKK/TBH are after all Mas players. Their fans' fear is that they are going to become another Hafiz. Well, let's hope they are the future Razif/Jalani or Soon Kit/Kim Hock instead (who had been more consistent during their heydays).

 

Before you write off any players or pair, you had to wait till the last tournaments this year first before you can say that this player is improve or that player is decline.

Ex: Cai/Fu did not quite good at few events this year and pick up from Singapore Open and now Indonesia Open.

KKK/TBH play really well at three of first events and not super (still good) next three events.

The other reason why KKK/TBH not always win or at least be runner up cause other countries or pairs already analyze how KKK/TBH playes. Where are their strength and their weakness. So it will not be as easy when they are new pair.

 

Ya KKK/TBH lost badly today, especially the 2nd set and 3rd set, which are only 12-21 and 10-21. The scores are awful, considering that KKK/TBH has won many titles recently. I think Rexy has done all he can to wake up them. Our fans also always worry and worry that they will become another Hafiz. It is all up to them. Afterall, we should accept the fact the way we did to Hafiz.

 

All i can say is..

...the current Indonesian Open has generated, arguably, the biggest most followed tournament in BCF this yr...Just look at how many threads which have gone over the 20,000+ views mark, all by itself(one of which is, essentially, over 35,000+ views)..and we're not even finish yet ...

 

Cos Singapore, Malaysia, and Indonesia represent mostr of BC's demographics. Most Chinese that love badminton prolly don't know how to understand english that well, and probably post on chinese forums. And Malaysians, Indoesians and Singaporeans usually have much better english... so thats why tourneys held around their countries generate so much views and discussion.

 

True..

...and if one notices the sequence of the sub-forum's history, one'll notice the numbers have increased from the yr opening Malaysian Open...It should be interesting to see how the numbers fluctuate throughout the yr..Will it keep rising and rising and building til the yr ending Grand Prix tourney??..we'll see..

 

From my observations, part of the reason KKK/TBH lost yesterday was that Fu Haifeng was placed at the net quite more often than usual. And he can match MAS pair in terms of response quickness at the net. MAS cannot dominate the net as usual.

Another reason is the uncharacteristic mistakes made by MAS pair, probably due to rushing the rallies once they fell behind. This is an indication of lack of composure (also affects Zakry/Fairuz to a certain extent).

And of course, the most telling part, Chinese mental strength. For the past 25 years, I've always admired this in the Chinese team. And with Bao holding off Taufik + Zhu Lin fighting by herself after ZN, XX and LL fell, this is the part that determines the champs from the pretenders.

 

Agree with hcyong and Inky, we cannot just write of players like that. The competition is stiffer now compared to during Razif/Jalani's & Cheah/Yap's times (only about 4 top pairs dominating, now MAS alone have 6 pairs fighting alongside Danes, Chinese, Indonesia, Eng, Korea, HK & Poland even). Even scratch pairs are becoming almost as dangerous as regular pairs.

Plus the PPR system introduces one variable that makes it almost impossible to play catch up. Just ask Tony and Candra.

But it is good to expose the shortcomings now, so that MAS can be better prepared in Sudirman Cup/China Open and eventually, World Championships at home.

 

guys...
a consecutive string of 3 losses doesnt mean much: besides, kkk tbh is slowly finding back their form, and i have confidence that they will reemerge...

 

is it because the formation of KKK/TBH pair that got folks on the bandwagon ? it certainly drew plenty attention when they were practically invisible. maybe that gave the badminton world a change instead of the same 0! same 0! when the game change to the 21 points, did it not drew the crowds ? so for now , its exciting to see new champions and new heros......

 

its the culture, when u have to compete with almost 2 billion people, u better be strong will and determined to be the best. look at the chinese students around the world, always competing to be the top student. so why wouldn't they continue to produce champions ????

 

Partially..

..it could be them...But could also be the whole new Super Series format..or the upcoming WC...or could also be the growing size of BC members around the world..

 

The question we should be asking is why other players can't be more adaptable and strong mentally like the Chinese, and this is not just limited to badminton. The sports associations must look at what is to be improved to create world beaters. The Chinese and the Western World are very good at this. Malaysia's own World Squash Queen was trained in Holland.

 

Agree ! then it will depend on how long they need to recover their peak form and how long they can keep their peak form. Player like Lin Dan can keep his peak form well, player like Hazif can't event keep his peak form more then 24 hours. Of course CY/HF is in peak now, but will they keep it till World Championship ? Is KKK/TBH going to recover their peak during World Championship ? CTF/LWW is also at their peak now, but they usually cannot keep they peak very long, so it may be disadvantage for them during world championship.

Another question is during their low form, how low is it ? KKK/TBH consider good as at their low form, they can still beat Kido/Setiawan. CTF/LWW usually has very bad low form, they can easily lost to unknown during their low.

 

their peak is over and they need time to get back to their peak again. example is LCW. his peak is over since WC in august last year and he regained his peak now, in May. almost 9 months to gain his peak. WC is coming and KKK/TBH can't wait that long to regain their form. something drastic need to be done. Rexy's comment are always right. read from local newspapers and see what rexy said. we are also malaysia fans and it's not nice to say it out.

 

Well, ia m happy enough that BC here have all the rasional fans and not just blasting and bashing them with all the harsh words here.I agree that yesterday their opponents prepared well and done enough homework than them.Actually this can let them realise that they can't always depends on their coach without thinking and arrange the strategy themselves.I hope this defeaf will really bring a lesson to them as i really doesn't wish to see talents like them going down and down.Anyway,just wait and see maybe in the Sudirman Cup in the coming June.