LCW Doesn't Need to Prove his Mettle Anymore

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  1. colekwok

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    Maybe that was the reason why. After watching the TH vs LCW match and part of the LD vs LCW match, I think that LCW was performing very well, his form is definitely better than Lin; TH seems to be at a very good form as well, but not as the explosive LCW. You can see LCW's movement around the court was so quick which you normally see Lin Dan does when he is fit.

    I am not following closely with the Malaysian team, but is LCW the only top MS player at the moment? I only know that Wong Choong Hann is getting old, pretty much like Chen Hong in China. How about Hashim? Haven't seen him play a lot.
     
  2. X Ball

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    I don't mean to patronise you but you are spot on.
     
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    LCW is the best player..
    tat is the onli sentences i will describe him...
    but he always make silly mistake tat gave a lot of point to his opponent...
    that's why his performance are up and down..
    when there is more pressure, tat mean more mistake..
    so tat's the reason he fail in WC but pass in merit in TC07 final & JO07..
    there is no one who perfect..
    so it should be ok if he can figure out way to reduce his careless mistake..
    for LD, he got less mistake but his style of play are not the best,
    just enough to beat ppl that are not in the top form..
    he might be the best consistent player...
    his biggest weakness is his mind, which juz play like a bull..
    he can't really think the strategy to win, but juz follow wat the coach say..
    if things when wrong, he will lost his mind..
    for TH, he is definitely best in his backhand & tricky shot..
    i will describe him as the best entertainner..
    but he just don't take it hard, he always follow his mood when playing..
    he missed out the disiplin..
     
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    With respect, winning the Japan Open is a good achievement but it is nothing compared to the WC and the Olympic gold where the pressure will be greater. And until LCW can prove that he can mix it in the big stage, I am still unsure of his mental toughness. It the recent WC, he fell flat and that is a clear indication that he tend to choke in the big events.
     
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    Ouch...you are spot on! What goes up must come down...as we saw today! LCW lost to Simon Santoso (who has never win a big title).
     
  6. taufik-ist

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    simon is the best today :)
     
  7. badMania

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    YUP! Two examples WHY LCW CAN'T BE THE BEST PLAYER NOW:
    1. Losing big to Sony Dwi Kuncoro in home ground (unexpected).
    2. Losing to Simon Santoso despite being in-form (also unexpected).
     
  8. pjswift

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    But why would LCW or his fans want him to be the best player now unless there is a contract guaranteeing the MS Gold in OG08 based on that status now.
    However ,to be considered in the best player category means he has arrived.But he's not sitting down and waiting on arrival. He still has unfinished business and will still be busy fine tuning his tactics and developing new weapons.
    I feel sorry you think so low of your INA players.Give them some credit. Sony and Simon have always troubled top players cos INA players don't play predictable badminton and really burn their opponents' mental stamina cos they're hard to read.That's their trademark.But they excel as upset specialists because they don't have enough stamina in outlasting to win a title. With more experience and dedicated gym work, they will be good for a SS title in 2 years, hopefully earlier.
    Suddenly, TC08 looks incredbly exciting!
     
  9. taufik-ist

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    xball...
    where are you.. this is your thread..
    i know you're here...
    please show up and speak up :) :)
     
  10. badMania

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    I don't think lowly of INA players, but the fact shows based on Lee Chong Wei's performance so far, he is of a higher level than both Simon or Sony. LCW HAS WON some major titles in his names. Already 3 titles this year and 3 titles last year; even more than what Taufik Hidayat won.

    Sony Dwi Kuncoro? Except for a bronze at the Olympics, his titles include only some ABC (last being in 2005) and the silver at the WC 2007.

    Simon Santoso? Errr....he has only won a lowly Vietnam Satellite event in 2005

    I am very happy that both Simon and Sony HAVE WON against LCW recently, but, this would also suggest that LCW is still not consistent, despite his presumed superiority.
     
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    LCW lost on the fatigue factor, courtesy of YKH's idea of forcing him to play the irrelevant local Kedah Open to spread 'badminton glitter' and maybe as 'tune-up' to JO. So CTO is his 3rd consecutive tournament. LCW can remind YKH of his bad 'glitter' decision in future so he can skip local tournaments.Better for LCW to spread MAS badminton glitter and interest through TV by reaching SS finals.
    Why worry about consistency when it's historically not an indicative criterion for OG MS Gold?
    LCW would rather face tough draw opportunities to train him up to overcome the toughest possible draw in OG08. Winning titles from easy route is always a bonus but also a waste of missed calibrating opportunities.
    It would not be wrong to say that the JO title is the most worthy and
    convincing SS title to date.
    If I were LCW, I would say to YKH, ' Because I had to play the Kedah Open, I missed my calibrating opportunity of taking on 3 INA MS in a row.'
    What a lost opportunity!
    Minimise the 'disturbance' further, YKH.The reward is sleeping better and possibly, more gold.
     
  12. fastdrop

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    LCW losing is no one's fault. There are days that it's not gonna work. A very good example is Tina Rasmussen, she is a good player and defeated all the top seeded Chinese players in the Japan open. But then, she lost to Juliane Schenk in the first round. All of them are possible winners. Sometimes luck plays a role.

    LCW, WCH and Dicky Palyama are among my favorite players. All of them are out now. I'm not blaming anyone why they lost as long as they gave each match their all.:)
     
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    No..as long as they take pics with Fastdrop.....:D:D:D
     
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    To be taken by Ants....:D:D:D
     
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    fully agree, can't win all the time, just like Taufik won the Olympic 2004 and WC2005 but lost to an unknown Anup in WC 2008, lots of examples to prove.....:)
     
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    I believe that from beginning of Taipeh Open....do not put high expectation of TH and LCW to be in final.....many fresher players are ready to down them and both have to play 2 times in one day....I think it is normal..as long as you win big one like JO..I do not mind if player loses the next one...remember that MS is so competitive these days....Top 50 can beat anybody..like Anup or Nguyen beat TH.....TH almost lost to Poompat in 2 nd round..
     
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    21-point side effect

    With all these excuses and blames from players to fan after each loss, we, the players and fan should develop a very short memory in order to get along or in sync :D
    Don't blame players for each loss as 21-point most probably is the main cause of inconsistent/floating results? Also, please don't blame YKH, over-stretching the fact.
     
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    Simon Santoso is also a thinking player. Remember how he troubled Lin Dan in the Swiss Open this year ?

    I'm not saying that Chong Wei is no good. But the number of matches that he has had to slogged out since the Kedah Open must have finally taken its toll on him. On a fresher day, yes, I believe Simon is still a wee bit away, but guess Chong Wei needs a rest already...

    Let Taufik take his 2nd title of the year lar....
     
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    Perhaps it's time for TH to win this Taipei Open 2007 !!!

    Hi amaze,

    As soon as I've heard that LCW lost his 1st game to SS, I knew LCW would be in big trouble.

    Congratulations should be given to SS's great win in that match.

    Perhaps it's time for TH to win this Taipei Open 2007, I expect. :):):)

    And yes...... LCW will now need a good rest.

    Cheers... chris@ccc
     
  20. OneToughBirdie

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    The reason LCW lost is to help his buddy TH get SS point and qualified for SS final...that's what friends are for??? Hehehe!!! :p:D;)
     

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