again, I am not whinging. I am just saying its suspicious. I am drawing no conclusions and am not trying to insinuate anything. I just want to say, if China is not 'cheating', why are you so wound up? It will be beneficial for them, they will be cleared. What i don't understand is why everyone is so against such a transparant action.... unless China cannot afford to, and their fans know it too? and please.... stop taking Indonesia as a conversation changer or scapegoat.
why don't you start a open discussion on the walkover of indonesian XD pair when two indonesian pairs played against each other during the WC.
TH complained about the umpire. I am sure everyone here except for China fans agree that the umpire did the wrong thing. Chinese players would have done the same thing. LCW complains? About himself you mean? I don't think that warrants calling him a whinger whinging about China...
hahahaa.............remove all those "cheatings" as you would and LD will still b no.1 in the world, wouldn't really matter much. MD players have much more sportsmanship and didn't say as much when they lost, simply accepted their loss as the opponents were better than them.
Rampant I do remember seeing a China Masters game between Peter Gade and Lin Dan during which the Chinese linesmen (in fact, most were women) at Gade's end ruled quite a few 'Out's as 'In's. Simply put, it was brazen misuse of official authority. But if Gade was shocked, he didn't show it... he just smiled it away. This kind of incident could happen anywhere. And you bet it does too. The point here is that only a handful of tournaments are held in China (or in its affiliated territories). It would also be trite to suggest that officials in other host nations would do China's bidding. As such, if cheating of the 'official' sort does happen, it is restricted to China-based events. As for asking China to deploy 'neutral' umpires, that would be unfair unless every host nation similarly agrees to use third-country officials for tournaments. Your pique is eminently understandable, vching. But to convince those in authority, you will need to do better than raise allegations.
There are a unusually large porpotion of tournaments in China: Macau Open GP Gold HK Open Super Series China Masters Super Series China Open Super Series but then again, that is another matter... I think it should be a rule that officials cannot be from the same country as the participant. That is in place in many if not all sports...
CY walkover during GO. the head of xxxxx (can't remember) from Germany already accuse against it. however, IBF found no evidence. and that German guy finally apollogized. these happened how many hundred times?
eh... I never said LD or china cheated..... I just said there is reasonable suspicion. LD is a legend, and I acknowledge it.
I think that only happened once. While on the other hand, many other walkovers have happened. But then again, the walkovers might be within the rules, but it is the officials from the same country that is the main issue with me... Again, I repeat, I am not accusing China of cheating, just saying that it is suspicious.
dude, MAS, INA, DEN can also do walkover as much as they can like CHN, it's just that they don't have that many good players that can go into further rounds of most tournaments.
Miniscule That's not an unusually large proportion of tournaments. In fact, that's just a few. A calendar year has about 40 major tournaments and another 80 less prominent tournaments.
i don't think so. At many of the crucial stages, DEN MAS and INA have not walkovered. SO07 first round - Hafiz defeats LCW. MO07SF Kenneth lost to Gade just off my mind now...
3 SS and 1 GPGOLD in a country and you say its not unusually large? Its about 400% what malaysia or indonesia gets!
