2006 MAS Open Quarterfinals Peter Gade vs LCW There was many bad line calls against Gade during the match Gade did protest against the umpire but TO NOT AVAIL; he just waved his hand and continued the match He lost the match eventually. After the match ended, a reporter went to interview Peter. He never mentioned anything regarding the BAD Calls, just said LEE CW was too excellent on that day. He said he will be back strongly next time ( A MAN TO HIS WORDS -- He won the MAS Open SS MS Title in 2007) Even though Peter lost that match, he won praises from the way he react post-match. WIN Or LOSE in a match sometimes is out of the players' control ; Since they can't change the results. Why need to debate and keep on arguing
None of all these controversy would have happened if instant reply is implemented. But i agree, let bygone be bygone. As long as BWF learn the lesson, will they?
I said the match is not "totally unfair", I didn't say the line judges are not "totally unfair". There is this official called "umpire" who is able to cancel the unfairness of the line judges (and he did a pretty good job). Are you really unable to see the difference? Or more probably you are just trying to mix things up. A professional player should not get personal with line judges and should only care about his points. So if LD is professional enough, he should not let the 4 overruled calls affect his mind.
If you are talking about ZYW getting 11 service faults, I think a Korean female player got a similar amount in another match. Both players are among the shorter ones, so it's more probably just different standards. At least, it's anti-Asia not anti-China. And Chn benefited from controversial calls too. BCL benefited from controversial calls in his games against LCW and LHI. In particular, in the BCL-LHI match, there were 3 controversial calls in 4 consecutive points, all benefited BCL. In both matches LCW and LHI dropped their racket as protests. Some ppl said they "smashed" their rackets, I suggest them go watch the videos again.
That's the point. Instant replay + neutral umpire + neutral service judge should be able to guarantee enough fairness.
So bad line calls justify everything? Or they only justify everything LD did, but other ppl has to act as gentlemen?
Bad line calls will recur again as long as BWF is too cheap or is it because of lack of funding/sponsors cannot afford Hawkeye…maybe incidence like this will generate more global interest than the great game itself...at least in BC, the most talked about topic with so many posts and threads than ever before, even ZM winning WSF going through 3 previous champions get no mention…game fixing, bad calls, etc are part of game strategy nowadays all with the goal of winning at all costs...simply put if 'you did not cheat to win, you did not try hard enough to win'. When I watch/play baddy again, after 20 years of not even playing the sport since I left MAS, it was because of watching ZJH-JS match, and then watching LD-TH rivalry and skills, so much so, I organized the trip to WC05 with 16 people to see these players live...it was the sheer delight in watching world class players in action more than I care who is winning what that capture my interest...really, if BWF cannot ride on the backs of these players to advance baddy, improve the game like tennis does and with coaches fixing game outcomes, bad calls, etc that does not help the cause one bit....and after LD, TH, LCW and PG retire, I cannot see baddy going anywhere, not with the current people running BWF.
since u have mentioned this twice, here is a precedent http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=19785&postcount=1
It's obviously a mistake that TH didn't get some severe punishment. And further it's PBSI's mistake, not BWF's. So what's your point? Furthermore we can compare TH and LD's attitutes. TH basically said, I did something bad, I had my reasons. I am ready to go on court; LD basically said, I did something not very appropriate, but that's because I am patriotic, I was trying to punish a traitor, so no one should blame me. Very funny.
my point was to reply to eaglehelang, plus u have illustrated my point. Beside, this KO incident hasn't come to full conclusion yet, u can't speculate what LD would say or not say.
Yep. Financial issue is always there i guess. Just look at the winner prize, is a shame badminton winning is just the tip of iceburg compare to other sports like Tennis and golf, where first place winner get a cool million USD, when will that happen in badminton?
I like to present a balance point of view and many people have short memory and conveniently gloss over historical events. Unfortunately, some see me as anti-TH
ye333 is right. Read the comments made by Lin Dan, quoted on Badzine. It's pretty clear that he had gotten over the bad linecall. Yet, its the sight of Li Mao, complaning and gesturing, and uttering some words to him that irked him and pushed him towards making that act of agression And as I mentioned earlier, bad linecalls happened all the time. Some even said it happened in the World Championships 2006 (mostly service faults issues), so, move on! No tournament is 100% perfect. As far as I am concerned, the level of umpiring in that MS Final match was probably the best we can have in Korea on that day. Imagine if the umpire himself was a Korean. Lin Dan would probably not wait until the ending of the third set to commit that act. Accept the fact that Korea is notorious for biased linejudges, and to think that Lin Dan should be mentally prepared for it too. As samuel mentioned, if Peter Gade and Bao Chunlai can accept their loss at the Malaysia Open 2006 and Indonesia Open 2006, even though there were biased linecalls against them, without resorting to violence, then the question is: Why Lin Dan failed to do the same in Korea Open 2008?
