Generally, ever since we regained our footing around 25 - 30 years ago, BAM and the Malaysian Team doesn't expect less than a semifinal finish in Thomas Cups. Anything else is a bonus. This is part of the reason why we have not achieved more, the other part being we have always struggled to have a team balance. The 1992 Thomas Cup victory was won on account of strength in the first 4 ties only. Yet we are critical against our team if we feel they are not playing to expectations. This happened quite a few times, in 82 and 84 (lost to England), 96 and 2000 (lost to Korea and Denmark). Surprisingly, being unable to defend the title in 1994, and the 2004 q-final loss to Indonesia was quite acceptable to BAM. Weird ......
I can't apologize if INA's "B" MD are stronger than CHN's "B" MD... We were just saying that if Kido-Hendra, Luluk-Alven, Cai-Fu, Guo-Xie couldn't play, then... INA's "B" are: WR #17 Joko-Hendra WR #22 Rian-Yoke While INA's "C" are: WR #38 Bona-Ahsan ; the Vietnam Challenge Champ WR #49 Fran-Rendra ; the [recently crowned] Finnish Challenge Champ CHN's "B" are: WR #41 He Hanbin - Shen Ye WR #75 Sun Junjie - Xu Chen I think we can destroy CHN's MD big time!
denmark all the way!!!!!!!!!! because they are currently the underdogs... yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Follow the same logic, if TH and Sony both injured, I wonder what INA can send for MS. For CHN, even if both LD and BCL not playing, they have CJ, CY and maybe CH if he wants to. Even GWJ, CL might fill in a spot or 2 to against weaker opponent's MS#3. Remember, there are 3 MS and 2 MD, I consider CHN MS is a lot of deeper.
Yes, CHN does not have that much depth in MD. However, He Hanbin / Xu Chen used to pair before, and somehow, He Hanbin seems changing partner from time to time. If he got a permit partner, that pair might be higher ranked. Also, I won't purely rely on world ranking, especially when it comes down to 20s and beyond. It depends on how many tournies you participate, and which are they. Many fairly unknown CHN players were/are crowned during CHN national matches, which by its standard, is higher than most of the SS and GS, as many CHN national players rank the national matches are harder than any open tournies in the international stage. How you evaluate the ranking then? Again, in my other post, TC/UC/SC do show the depth and balance, but not necessarily 100% accurate. Otherwise, CHN might win every single time, especially UC and SC, if say we use 15 games format vs. 5.
Then INA would still has SS as 1st single, Andre Tedjono as 2nd, Tommy Sugiarto as 3rd, and Alamsyah Yunus as 4th..we have depth as well in MS although maybe not as experienced as CHN MS, but technically they're pretty good though..Simon proved to be a dangerous player, and Andre has beaten CY many occasions..There isn't any reason why INA MS afraid to face CHN MS..with MD squad backing up, and super crowd of fans we can deliver TC back to our home soil..hohoho
and CHN MS can destroy Ina MS big time! the entire Ina MS player afraid to Lin Dan even Ina best MS agreed with PBSI plan so he can avoid Lin Dan in TC 08
why should we ashame for avoiding lindan ( you said we're affraid of lindan) ... if we can beat the rest of china squad...
Guys, pls cool it. Otherwise, Mr Kwun will come in with his whip and ask the boys & girls to grow up.
I admit that CHN's MS can very well destroy INA big time... However, it is not true that the entire INA MS players are afraid of Lin Dan. Even I am not afraid to face Lin Dan. Why should we be afraid of him?!? We are a very good badminton powerhouse. Winner of 13 Thomas Cups! We are not afraid of anyone! ...except ourselves, that is... Exactly, taufik-ist! Actually, I heard from PBSI sources [just this morning] that Taufik can't wait to face and defeat Lin Dan in Istora. He has done so before and can do it again. Taufik is not afraid of Lin Dan at all! Taufik keeps saying "Put me up there! I want to win one point for INA." *I am not kidding*
INA fans are cool..rite taufik-ist? and we always respect MAS, KOR, DEN, and other fans.. oh and CHN fans too of course..