Root out insults

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  1. azabaz_ipoh

    azabaz_ipoh Regular Member

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    agree with you here. :D:D:D but how can we make sure the other party knows that we know that it was an insult and we are ignoring him if we did not acknowledge the insult in the first place. hahahaha. going in a roundabout i know. i mean, if we did not mention that we feel insulted, the other party might not know that he was insulting others.
     
  2. Birdwood

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    I agree with you. If he had said: shut up la..Birdwood! It would not have offended me. But when it's involving a word which currently characterized as offensive against a race with a long history of mistreatment in North America. It could not have simply been ignored.
     
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    Exactly.

    "...mind over matter. If you don't mind, it doesn't matter."
    -Mark Twain
     
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    Sure it can be ignored. You just have to let it go. Not always easy but it can be done.
     
  5. wood_22_chuck

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    Birdwood, just concentrate on giant pandas chewing nonchalantly on bamboo. Serene, peaceful ... KUNG FU PANDA!

    Then ignore the person who insulted you.

    -dave
     
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    He might be. But if we don't take a stand against insults like that, what will happen when others use them? It does not matter who uses offensive words. As long as they are derogatory and insulting, the use should be banned in BC. Being a black person in America today, it would still be wrong for him to use the _ word. Justice is for all ppl, not just for some :rolleyes:
     
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    Thanks, I'll do, my friend.
     
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    i agree with you. i've had a fair share of being insulted, but mostly, i'm too lazy to even reply. it'd be putting calories to waste moving my mouth muscles. and these calories are far more valuable than whoever insulted me.

    but unfortunately, there will always be remarks which hurt a lot. perhaps the remark brings back a past experience, or personal matters, and what could be water off a duck's back for one person could be a pin through another's heart. each person has something which will hurt them. it's called being human:eek::eek:
     
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    Yep. Gradually, one learns to fight only the battles that matter, and to ignore the rest.

    The number of possible insults is too great to list; indeed, any form of words may be insulting, no matter how apparently innocent. It all depends on context.

    For the serious student of bad language, I suggest studying the Alternative English Dictionary, rather than trying to make such a catalogue here on BC. :D

    **edit**

    Uh, Dinkalot...you might not want to look up the meaning of dink. :eek:
     
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    Where I live a person from China is generally called Chinese, never a Chinese, which is rather inelegant use of English, or a Chinaman, with no intention that either term should be interpreted as a slur of any kind.
     
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    Clearly, you missed the irony. I was merely illustrating the folly of someone choosing to define a word as insulting per se and then trying to get its use banned, especially when it has perfectly reasonable usages.
     
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    I know too Chris, I was there when it happened. We were enjoying that day's matches, ;). There're a lot of remarks on the net & in life that wil hurt us, just depends what we do abt. I go the in-direct way, which often times dont work since some ppl has very thick skin.
     
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    no, Chinese describes that person. but a (as in one person) person from China is called a (note a, being one) Chinese person. perhaps in my mistake, i forgot to include the "person" at the end.

    but that's all academics, and i'm a bit tired for that. all i was trying to say is, i don't think it's very nice to call someone a "Chinaman" because it's not really the proper way of describing someone from China. of course, people do whatever they want, and i don't really care about them.
     
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    I think you did.
     
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    no, i didn't. i didn't include "person" at the end of my first post. this is purely academics right? consider these sentences.

    He is a Chinaman
    He is a Chinese person

    He is Chinaman
    He is Chinese

    Chinaman is a noun. if you are to describe someone from China, the it would be He is a Chinese person.

    just wondering, you say it's normal for a Chinese person to be called a Chinaman where you live. have you ever asked a Chinese person how they feel about that? or asked more than one? who wasn't a friend of yours?
     
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    Oh dear. Let me re-phrase. You did forget to add the word "person" to the end of the phrase "a Chinese".

    If I wanted to describe someone from China I would describe them as a Chinaman. I would rarely use that inelegant circumlocution a Chinese person in that way. And yes, I have several friends of Chinese origin, none of whom feel that it is offensive. I think that the scourge of political correctness has advanced less in the UK than it has in some other countries.

    If you want an offensive term for a Chinaman, try chink.

    Cricketers all over the world use the term chinaman to describe a left-arm wrist spinner. It comes from the former West Indian player EE Achong, a left-arm spinner of Chinese origin, who bowled wrist spin as well as left-arm orthodox. It is not meant to be, nor taken to be, an insult.
     
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    I hope I have not offended anyone here

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    Yes, eaglehelang... I know you were there with me, and with many others as well. And many of us were trying to calm things down for them. :)

    But what I saw... It was really how Birdwood and the other party felt or how they interpreted the word "Chinaman" and "shut up".

    The other party did not even think to insult Birdwood and therefore did not want to apologise. But Birdwood was hurt, and wanted an apology. And they went on arguing for some time. :D:D:D

    Yes, "Chinaman" and "shut up" may be belittling. :(

    However, I felt that the other party was saying something like this... "Be quiet China/LYB supporter, please let PSH beat Sony so that PSH can meet up with CJ/China/LYB in the Final".

    Oops... I hope I have not offended anyone here. :):):)
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    ok, sorry, i was mistaken. but all you said was "yes you did" so it was kind of hard to work from that :eek::eek: i'm sorry if i'm coming across as aggressive. don't mean to be.

    well, i guess it's really up to the area where you live. because not many people in NZ call chinese people (happy? :D:D) chink. NZers wouldn't know what that is. but i remember several years back when "Chinaman" was a really "popular" insult, and more than a few fights came up over it.
     
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    I know a company (not in China) which employ many China national. The local chinese think themselves superior and frequently use the word 'chinaman' to refer to the China national :mad:. So no surprise if the offender is chinese.
     
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    Panda glad Pandanese is Panda's first language and not Englishie. Panda not even know when someone insult Panda, Panda have better time on BC. :D
     
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