ah! you from china! how is fks, the coach doing now? heard he was resting and when is back training them?
fks? Do you mean Tang Xianhu? As far as I know, he need time to teach his son who is a young player in Fujian province team, thus he asked for one year leave from the national team. However, he will attend TC as counsellor.
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LYB is not dumb Likewise, LYB doesn't have to field GZD/XC at all. He could field FHF/CY, CB/ZN (or any combination).
There is no doubt that CHN is the front-runner in both the 2010 Uber and Thomas Cups . With the depth of strength of team CHN, there is no doubt that CHN is the front-runner in both the 2010 Uber and Thomas Cups. For the Womens team, the Chinese girls should have no problem to win the Cup. For the Mens team, LYB will only need to examine the strength of the 2nd and 3rd Singles and the 2nd Doubles of opposing teams. .
yes, examine the strength of opposing teams as china ba line up in ms whether its cj/ld/bcl or ld/bcl/cl its just too strong! as for 2 md, its obvious!
For BCL, for example HH has beat him before in recent years. So I would say the chance is bigger than 0.1%. For CY/FHF, you must be kidding to say that the newly crowned AE champion has less than 0.2% chance beating a quarter finalist in the same AE...
You are assuming LD will surely beat LCW. But what if the same thing as 2008 happens? Almost surely KKK/TBH will beat Guo/Xu and BCL will beat WCH. It's less surely but let's say CY/FHF beat MAS MD2. Then it's CL vs HH. 50:50.
Line up Optimizations Hmm, interesting discussion so far. I can see a couple of things. Overall, China has a very flexible line up that will allow them to conserve the energy of their two biggest guns LD & CY/FHF. They can still rely on their MS depth & pick up a MD point where necessary in the early rounds. Then in later rounds the Chinese team (& big guns) will relatively be much fresher than their opponents i.e. MAL, INA, KOR, DEN. These four all have some holes in their line ups and their top players will have to fight hard in every tie ex. LCW as MS1 will need to win every match & take on the best of every other country, Ditto for LYD as MD1 for Korea. Meanwhile, LD & CY/FHF can take rests in the MS2 & MD2 slots until crunch time & either move up to MS1 & MD1 or stay where they are. My reasoning: 1) Since CJ Rank > LD Rank: Lin Dan can play MS2 rest & then rebound back to play MS1 when it really counts. - Against the weaker countries CJ is good enough to take the point & LD can cruise to victory as MS2 (or not even play) - In final rounds vs. the big boys (MAL, DEN, INA) a relatively fresh LD can take on MS1 of these countries & then Bao & CL/etc. can mop up MS2 & MS3. Most of the other teams have a huge drop off in MS2 & MS3 & realistically will get rolled over. - pure speculation, but maybe LD is not physically 100% so could be a way to keep something in reserve 2) Fu/Cai can play MD2 and beat most other coutries including the big boyz - I don't think MAL & KOR MD2s have been on form enough to beat them - Only the Danes pose any real threat in the MD2 slot - Again, LYB can rest Fu/Cai in the MD2 slot vs. tough games in the MD1 slot, while MD2 Danes will probably have harder matches given their weak MS1, MS2; given age fatigue may be a factor in the Final or Semi. All this goes out the window if LD loses his singles match or if there some strange draw effects however.
like i said there are two possibilities of china line-up, first - cj/ld/bcl or second -ld/bcl/cl. your prediction above was using the first possibility what about the second one? i think china chance of getting 2 singles is great and for double if cy/fhf play second - ahem unless mas players really play very well! anyway above are just possibilities...end less really!
What I was trying (maybe not very successfully) to say is that, neither of your lineup is as strong as LD-CJ-BCL. Anyway, as LD is participating ABC, most likely his losses in AE/Swiss are not a result of LYB's genius anyway.
This assumes CHN plays Guo/Xu as 1st MD. They may play Cai/Fu as 1st MD, Then a surprise pair for 2nd MD
If after the ABC LD is still the #2 ranked CHN player, then LYB will be forced to rejig his TC lineup so that LD plays MS1. Like many have said, there is no way CHN gains any advantage with LD playing MS2. CJ at MS1 is very beatable and a loss would put pressure on CHN to be 0-1 right off the bat. That's not to say LD won't lose either in the MS1 slot given his current form. I'd just rather take my chances with LD at MS1 then CJ. As for the MDs, again many posters have correctly pointed out both CHN pairs are vulnerable, whether or not CY/FHF plays MD1 or MD2. Based on current form even at MD2, FHF/CY can be defeated. Let me add that the pressure of playing a match where you are heavily favoured can be magnified many fold, and this is the TC to boot–you lose, you let your country down. Remember, underdogs have nothing to lose.
of course ld/cj/bcl is the standard strong lineup that is, if ld maintain his no.2 spot! cj and bcl as 2 and 3 are very strong if lets say ld lost! by thomas cup i think he should pick up his form unless lyb wants it that way (good form but behind cj!) unbelievable? yes this is a possibility and china under lyb has done it before! as for advantage only lyb knows! from video ld losses in ae/swiss, i don't think that was a fixed game.
Why not have LD as No.1 and CJ as No.2? . Agree. LD is as good, more often even better, as any No.1 player from other countries. And CJ is as good, more often even better, as any No.2 player from other countries. So, why not have LD as No.1 and CJ as No.2? .
