BWF and doping : just a joke !

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  1. TrueBlue

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    since when do you have to have "information" to discuss in a forum? my personal concern is just the way that the physics of the players, their quickness and also the way some teams take long time periods for training camps, should allow this discussion, since its hard to deny the possible enhancing effects of drugs (like EPO or testosteron) for badminton. And i think the information that no sufficient training check-ups at least in some countries are done is safe enough to post here.
    I am personally just worried that because in different proffessionlism in different countries not every athlete has the same "chance" and that the technical side of the game could be in big parts outlasted by physical abilities which are helped by the substances.
     
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    you can discuss, but we can only classify this as unsubstantiated (sorry for the pun) speculation. ;)
     
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    World Anti-Doping Agency Code

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    Perhaps TrueBlue was not talking about our world top Badminton players, but casual players.

    BWF is a member of the Olympic Games Federations, where the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) Code is strictly followed. Therefore, players participating must be very careful with everything they ingest, including medications.
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  4. TrueBlue

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    are you referring to yourself as "we" now?:):confused:
     
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    To educate players about anti-doping regulation and knowledge

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    And here is part of a letter from Tong Wai Lun, the Chairman of Hong Kong Badminton Association, released today, 04-Sep-2010.

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    HKBA has always been supporting and complying with the relevant regulations by WADA
    and BWF. Whenever there was memo or guideline about anti-doping issued by BWF, HKBA
    immediately distributed to relevant Board members, coaches and then informed players. We
    have always informed and encouraged players to attend anti-doping education programmes
    held by Sports Federation and Olympic Committee of Hong Kong, China to enhance their
    awareness and attention to anti-doping regulations. HKBA has also been providing assistance
    and guidance for players to submit their whereabouts information regularly. As a national
    sports association, we are committed to preserve open, fair and justice of the Olympic Games
    spirits and take such measures as necessary against the use of illegal acts to attain
    championship.

    From end of July till now, HKBA has been working closely with WADA and BWF and
    promptly providing information when requested.

    From now on, HKBA have learnt a lesson and will take this incident as educational material
    to teach all badminton players to be from time to time aware of medication intake and
    reporting. We will continue working with Hong Kong Sports Institute to strengthen
    monitoring on players, to hold regular seminar for players and encourage them to attend
    related workshops organized by Sports Federation and Olympic Committee of Hong Kong,
    China. Meanwhile, HKBA may invite Hong Kong Anti-doping Committee of Sports
    Federation and Olympic Committee of Hong Kong, China to conduct un-announced doping
    test to our badminton players.

    This is an isolated case. We believe that other players will not be affected. HKBA will
    endeavor to promote badminton sports in Hong Kong as in the past, to educate players about
    anti-doping regulation and knowledge, and to seek supports from the public, including
    monitoring by the media.

    ====== * ====== * ====== end of part of letter ====== * ====== * ======

    Source: http://www.bwfbadminton.org/file_download.aspx?id=23305
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    not quite so true. it poses a lot of questions like about her old teammates or other players who are of similar fitness and athletic ability. also it came out in the past -like ben johnson- that sometimes one black sheep should try to "prove" a sport is "clean" (in johnsons case it came out almost all his competitors were on doping).
     
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    We cannot say that the system of anti-doping checks is "Just a Joke"

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    BWF is only doing the random anti-doping checks. It is like the random drink-driving checks.

    We cannot say that the system (of anti-doping and drink-driving checks) is just a joke.

    The BWF anti-doping programme is about promoting a healthy and fair approach to training and competition. It is introduced to promote fair sportsmanship (without using drugs). It is not intended for the programme to go all out to catch offenders.
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    so if you think its enough,ok. i dont. my main personal concern is that teenagers are confronted with videos of professional players who perform under drugs and think this kind of movement over long periods of time is possible without drugs. so maybe they damage their bodies or dream of international career and dont focus on other things like education, because nobody talks of doping in badminton.
     
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    BWF could be expected to follow the well-known checks used in Cycling

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    There is one thing that I am quite certain. If, while BWF is checking randomly with smaller samples, and if more and more players are found to be using drugs, then probably BWF would increase/introduce more anti-doping checks. BWF should be expected to follow the well-known checks used in our Cycling competitions.

    Talking about teenagers at schools/universities, usage of drugs is on the rise. But schools and universities have yet to introduce any checks to discourage drugs usage.
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    bwf and doping: just not enough!

    the title of the thread should be:

    bwf and doping: just not enough!

    after reading over 70 pages in this thread i am beginning to wonder

    could a lot of lucky professional players got away with doping?

    to conduct doping test beside expensive its rather troublesome

    so random test has been selected by bwf.

    this means lucky or unlucky

    well zhou mi was the unlucky one

    (as contributed by trueblue)
    http://www.bwfbadminton.org/news_item.aspx?id=39476 zhou mi tested positive
     
  13. TrueBlue

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    but this thread onlyhas 5 pages.
     
  14. TrueBlue

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    sorry: i double posted.
     
  15. pBmMalaysia

    pBmMalaysia Regular Member

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    your last thread was no.73

    according to my screen

    what's yours?
     
  16. eaglehelang

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    You put PAGE, actually you mean POST. Post got 75+ mine = 76
     
  17. pBmMalaysia

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    post and page not the same, my mistakes

    sorry ladies and gentlemen
     

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