CHN players are not like that anymore..I disagree with Rudy hartono...as in his old time,,,there were fewer tournaments and players and now we have so many tournaments , facts , lets take Korean pairs, they keep losing in first 4 or 7 tournaments but they are getting better especially in Double department...same case like Brice, he travels everywhere and lost many tournaments in the beginning, now he is a much a better player... FYI, China players always go out during weekend and go home late..they do Clubbing also...I believe Korean players are more likely to follow the strict rules
I agree and INA coach also agree..Rudy lives in the past....even some titles, like koh Chris and LSK had to yield to Rudy..if not..they were not sent to overseas,...Rudy Hartono should have known that...right now..it requires startegy, INA coaches are doing it now and at the same time...they will send young players also
I was surprise Rudy was not referring to the younger players when he mentioned the after 6 tournament cut off He probably missed out one word, specialization Maybe Indonesia does not need this, simply the pool is too big But on the other hand if that really happens, there won't be any Sony or Simon or equivalent left in say, 1.5 years time or less ? Going high performance training does not start only with their winning results, some needs adjustments, special attention and care... That is why we can only find one champion per country so slow
Indonesia looks to India for sports development Indonesia looks to India for sports development Niken Prathivi, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta | Thu, 05/05/2011 8:00 AM | Sports Full story: http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2011/05/05/indonesia-looks-india-sports-development.html Youth and Sports Minister Andi Mallarangeng says Indonesia needs to learn from India about sports science and medicine. “We really hope we can send more coaches [to India] in order to boost their quality. In exchange, Indian players could have some training here,” Andi said at a press conference after meeting with India’s Sports Minister, Ajay Maken, in Jakarta on Wednesday. “Do not be embarrassed to learn good things from other countries. “I encourage all Indonesian sports figures to learn more about sports science, sports lecturers to boost their knowledge, and for doctors to study sports medicine in India, which is indeed more advanced,” he said, adding that the two countries’ closeness in historical and geographical background could help ease the cooperation. In response, Maken said he hoped the exchange could also be applied in the use of sports facilities. “We have good sports facilities, as well as sports science in education. We welcome all Indonesians to come there to learn,” said Maken, adding that he also encouraged youth of both countries to exchange life experience to learn the historical and cultural backgrounds of each country. Maken lauded Indonesia’s power in badminton. “Even one of Indonesia’s coaches has succeeded in producing the world number four in women’s singles, Saina Nehwal [of India],” he added. One of Indonesia’s badminton legends, Atik Jauhari, began coaching Nehwal in August, 2008. Since then, the Indian ace managed to win, among other titles, the Indonesian Super Series 2009, Singapore Super Series 2010 and Swiss Open Grand Prix Gold in March. Nehwal reached her highest world ranking of number two in December last year. In exchange for badminton, Maken offered Indonesians to learn more about cricket, boxing and archery on India’s grounds. “Our facilities [in the aforementioned sports] are open to all Indonesian sports figures.” Maken said he was scheduled to make stopovers in Yogyakarta and Bandung during his visit to see the two cities’ sporting facilities.
Going back to RH, i just dont think that what RH mean is purely related to result. He did not use a single word mentioning bad results. He said "The PBSI should impose rewards and punishment more sternly. Within six tournaments in a year, we should be able to decide whether an athlete is worth keeping, or not,”. And these words are misinterpreted from post #2199. RH did not say that after bad results in 6 tournaments PBSI should punish the players by not sending them tournament anymore, instead PBSI should know (based on so many factors such as talent, determination, technical/physical ability, conducts, mentality, etc etc) that within 6 tournaments in a year whether this particular player will be worth keeping. So let say if a player is having bad results in 6 tournament but clearly showing very good elements, hence the anwer will be YES its worth keeping him/her. IMO he's meaning more towards talent spoting (within and outside pelatnas) and having developmeny program in place, not just keeping players that are non performing for so many years simply because there is no alternative. What he's complaining mainly is the mentallity of current players lacking in so many areas that he believe he had during he's hey day. I think he's idea is pretty similar in principle to what Koh Chris has said. We can kick all non performing top players out of pelatnas, and risking/sacrificing 10 years ahead without any glory as long as can make sure that the next gen will be up there. OK thats an extreme example. And ideally PBSI should be around the middle that is having players like Hayom and Tommy while also going out spotting the even younger talents. But to me both RH and CH are just saying/urging PBSI to faster the process of regeneration. Not a mindless dictator ready to chop anyone head.
INA will participate UNIVERSIADE at SHENZEN...while I was in Shenzen last week,China is beautifying the streets and recruiting many volunteers for this event. Coach: Luluk H and Ronny A MS: Alamsyah and Andre Marteen WS: Bellatrix M. and Hera desi MD: Rian/Angga, Rendy/Afiat WD: Jenna G/Dewi K. XD: Shendy/Ricky and Richi/Rizky ( If I remember correctly)
Any thoughts after the Sudirman Cup 2011? Why they don't ask Alvent to come back to the National Team? I don't see any significant improvement from Ahsan/Bona.
Ahsan play extremely good yesterday to beat the world #1. I believe Bona and others MD pair will improve under Hery IP. The example is Angga/Ryan, appear in IND SS 2011 final. The arrival of Hadi Nasri and Hery IP will make a great impact for pelatnas, watch out.
Ahsan/Bona is not that impressive, maybe Bona drags Ahsan leg too much. Alvent/Ahsan were awesome, even better than Alvent/Hendra. Is there any chance for them to keep pairing up?? Cos I think if possible they will win many throphies together, maybe even Olympic gold as we know HS/MK are strugling at the moment.
Im glad to see players like Fran Kurniawan, Moh Ahsan, and Tantowi have all emerged recently. They are good signs and lights at the end of the tunnel, and I hope they will spring inspiration to other youngster as well
agree ...! they are good examples unlike Simon Santoso who don't have the same "fighting spirit" he seem to be too casual and lazy ... when I play against such players with that kind of attitude I always feel not satisfied because they are not good opponents OTOH having such player to be your partner is always very annoying because they can influence your play too
And then Bona can pair with Hendra, swapping job hehehehe.... Who knows they can play better together too
