who will win the 2005 Sudirman Cup?

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Who will win the 2005 Sudirman Cup?

  1. China

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  2. Denmark

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  3. England

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  4. Hong Kong, China

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  5. Indonesia

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  6. Korea

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  7. Sweden

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  8. Thailand

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  1. Ilsegogogo

    Ilsegogogo Regular Member

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    compared with advantages and disadvantages of all teams, i would say China gets the Cup!
     
  2. happy go lucky

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    The "big bully" of badminton, of course, while the rest competing for 2nd best :eek:
     
  3. DaN_fAn

    DaN_fAn Regular Member

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    Basically any one would say china.but seriously i dont see why denmark cannot beat China.They can definitely challenge them in the ms md and mxd doubles.[forget about the ws and wd which are almost a formailty.it's like the opposition is just playing to know the final score ,the result being almost confirmed.it would be interesting to see an upset though.well even it's a one in a million chance it's still a chance ,right.[RRRIGHT].or perhaps there are MORE chances that zhang ning will twist her ankle and retire:D ]
    it would be dissapointing for the home fans if china fail to win the cup.but, personally i dont want to see china brush aside other teams like nothing.i would love to see a denmark-china final going into the very last rubber.
    i thing it's also interesting to see who plays in the ws singles?[xie or zhang].it is unlikely that xie will play though,or perhaps they will rotate the 2 depending on the team against which they play,and save zhang's energy.
     
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    DaN_fAn Regular Member

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    oh! and i like the idea of group pomotion too.but does that mean that a team in the 5th group will have to wait for a minmum of 8yrs from now if they want to win the cup[correct me if i am wrong]
     
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    Yes, that's what it means.
     
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    dont u think that's too long a period.i mean say some really weak team in group 5 actually gets promoted to group one due to as string of great perfomances.then after 8 yrs where are te players??in countries like china,indonesia , denmark etc good players replace the ones who leave.but what of the countries where world class badminton players are just 3-4.[perhaps this only means that in order for a country to win the SC, it's badminton community should be really large and the infratructure for the sport must be really good.which should make winning the SC even more valuable]
     
  7. hcpoirot

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    I am disagree with you.

    Yes, Denmark can challenge China in MD and XD. The chances for that numbers are 50:50.

    But China already got 2 solid points from WS and WD. Meanwhile Denmark got 0 score. It will be a huge mental problem for the Denmark to get 2 points in a row from MD and XD.

    As for MS, I can't see any Denmark MS can challenge Lin Dan. Peter Gade? He even lost to Roslin Hashim in All England and Hafiz in Swiss Open. Probaby age does matter? And he never beat Lin Dan from their recently previous meetings.
     
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    I am agree with you.

    The Sudirman Cup probably should had only 3 or 2 groups. Or even for all the nations can compete, the format should be like Thomas and Uber Cup.
     
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    its a team event, so even if u have 1 invicible player, you'd still lose 4-1 or whatever. u need strength in depth, and good development, training, and guidance of new players all the time to acheive this, therefore its not about playing the same players 8 years in a row, but working towards a strong national squad, with this "cup" as a kudos prize.

    therefore i agree with the different "leagues" since u should always be playing against teams of the same standard, as long as new players keep emerging. maybe there will be less 5-0 wins compared to the group stages of the TC and UC:rolleyes:
     
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    Final : China Vs Indonesia
     
  11. indra

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    Indonesia - SUdirman Cup

    =======I guess It is Indonesia's turn. When Taufik is in his best form, no player on this planet will be able to defeat him. Chandra/Sigit are still the best. MD are improving.

    Chinese players have always had difficulty in playing in in their own country. It is a sort of " home-syndrome".
     
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    eeeh,, i dont think so, dont get me wrong, i do want indonesia to win, but lets face it, its almost impossible
    first of all, taufik is NOT in his best form, secondly, candra/sigit are one of the best, but still beatable, like we've seen yesterday becos the mistakes they oftenly make
    and i dont see chinese have any difficulties playing ANYWHERE, they almost always ruled the tournament
    but, lets hope for the best for indonesia, its getting boring now, that we can predict easily who'll be the champs in tournaments (lindan, chinese wd and ws)
     
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    i think, aiyuuw, it's time for you to Take Up the sport. :D after that, you'll be watching matches from a different light. ;),, Go on,,, go,,,,,,, NOw!

    ok ok. maybe you'll need to get a racquet first :p.
     
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    CHINA for sure. MS/ WS/ WD will secure 3 points. China is unbeatable.:D
     
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    I agree with the league format that we have currently, but it will be better if the Sudirman Cup were held every year.
     
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    ...Final: Indonesia vs China

    Taufik vs Lin Dan = 15-10, 13-15, 15-2.
    vs Chen Hong = 15-5, 15-4
    vs Bao Chun Lay = 15-10, 15-8
    Chandra/Sigit vs whoever = 15-10, 14-17, 15-2
    Nova/Natsir vs whoever = 15-12, 15-13
    WS vs whoever = 5-15,10-15
    WD vs whoever = 3-11, 2-11

    SO Final Score: Indonesia (3) - China (2) :cool: :D ;)
     
  17. aiyuuw

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    wow,okay then[​IMG]
    anyway, u misplaced ur 'imaginary' score in wd and ws[​IMG]
     
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    Taufik v whoever (more or less 50-50)
    Chandra/Sigit v Fu/Cai (more or less 50-50)
    Nova/Natsir v whoever (more or less 50-50)
    WS (China 99%)
    WD (China 99%)

    That is more realistic.
    And even those which are 50-50 slightly tilts towards China.
     
  19. peace

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    Go FOR CHINA

    I think China will win the Sudirman Cup....

    Their opponent in final could be Indonesia, Denmark, and Korea
    If they meet Indonesia...they can win 4-1 or even 5-0...
    against Korea....hmmm I think can be 4-1
    against Denmark can also be 4-1 or 3-2

    :D
    Hope that they won;t be nervous to play at home...
    So...Go China !!! Go LIN DAN !!! :D
    Zhong Guo !!! Zhong Guo !!!
     
  20. jkusmanto

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    It was also happen in 2003. China and Indo were in the first place, but what happened ? Korea was the best.

    Right now, peoples say China and Indo all the time.
    Don't under-predict Korea and Denmark.

    China is the best in WS, WD and 'maybe' MS and MD. But they are all beatable.
    Beside the Taufik 'trouble maker' Hidayat, Indo has also MD and XD. But worst in WS and WD. Do you think Indo -with a 'unstable' Taufik, MD and XD- can get the SC ? It has to do very, very hard.

    Korea has, WD and WS to compete China. Also the performance of its MD en XD are grouwing up.

    Denmark, right this moment has the best MD and XD. PEter Gade still one of the best. So.... never under-estimate Denmark.
     

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