Lee Chong Wei ( 李宗伟 )

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  1. visor

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    Hair gel test too? :)

    But I think the Aug 15 test will be positive too.
     
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    oh, that Armstrong guy, scarred for life!
     
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    And [MENTION=86374]Justin L[/MENTION] brings up an important point on the wada listing on dexamethasone a few pages back, even though it is allowed out of competition, it is *prohibited to inject into muscle. *

    So if he did have the steroid enhanced stem cell treatment into his thigh, it is illegal under the current regulations.
     
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    It was negative, they are re-testing it to be sure.
    If the re test of Aug 15 is negative again, means between Aug 15 to 29, something taken or rubbed(?) has the Dexa.
    So far, traditional herbs takda, according to KJ nin another news report.
     
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    I see... They better make sure to use very sensitive tests that wada uses, not some cheap test...
     
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    I am pretty sure Zhou Mi tested positive under the "out-of-competition" programme:

    http://www.bwfbadminton.org/news_item.aspx?id=39476

    But in any case, you may be correct. Nevertheless, the point stands. Zhou Mi's last significant win was in 2008.

    I think we should wait for the results, but yes, hoping he doesn't get banned (provided it wasn't on purpose). However, like I said, gonna be hard to enforce the rules afterwards when an exception is made for him but not for other players, lesser or not)
     
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    You got read the article or not? From start to finish <shake head>

    “We are looking at another test right now. The athlete had taken an out-of-competition dope test on Aug 15 in Malaysia and it was conducted by WADA (World Anti-Doping Agency) before he left to compete in the World Championships in Copenhagen,” revealed Khairy.

    “The test was sent to a laboratory in Barcelona, and it did not show any trace of dexamethasone. This is because dexamethasone is allowed during out-of-competition tests
     
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    I have a few observations.

    1. We will never know the whole truth behind something this big. A will blame B; B will blame C; C will blame D; and D may blame A.

    2. Doping is a strict liability offence. If it is in your urine, you are guilty. Case closed; end of discussion. They don't care why dexamethasone is in your urine.

    3. As for sentence, LCW has two options, which are not mutually exclusive:

    (a) LCW did not intend to enhance performance (article 10.4)

    (b) LCW bear No Significant Fault or Negligence (article 10.5.2)
     
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    That is a straw man. The argument ISN'T a Lee Chongwei with a lot more endurance and less skill. The argument is a Lee Chongwei with a lot more endurance, shorter injury recovery time and the SAME skill.

    Let's not go around insulting other members' "maths" when clearly you are devoid of any basic logic.
     
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    Or: Financial rewards not high enough.

    Or: For a number of sports, physical strength is an attribute - badminton doesn't rely on too much power (relative to power sports).
     
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    the test on 15 Aug did not specifically test for dexamethasone, right?
     
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    Training done OUT of competition, where the substance is allowed.
     
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    Is that right? 10 days to two weeks?

    so six weeks would be extremely unusual then?
     
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    ^not with slow/controlled release as visor and Cheung mentionned
     
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    This is a weird comment which doesn't sound quite right. Is it poor transcription?


    - The test was sent to a laboratory in Barcelona, and it did not show any trace of dexamethasone.

    - This is because dexamethasone is allowed during out-of-competition tests.


    Ehh?? no trace of dexamethasone was found because dexamethasone is allowed out of competition? Am I missing something obvious?:confused:

    Not sure!
     
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    fair point

    not too much power! have you heard the sonic boom resulted from FHF's smashes? tell the guys on the other side of the net, power is nothing!
     
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    Must specifically test for it ?? It doesnt show up the list of chemicals in urine?

    I'm more interested as to how that well known sports lawyer going to argue the case when sample B results are out.
     
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    Weell badminton is actually extremely strength-dependant, as you need explosive strength to move around quickly - the main difference to weight lifters is that the strength in relation to the body weight counts, and that you need to be way more flexible and coordinated, which detracts from your lifts. But I remember a post by a German coach a few years back stating LCW could squad 4 times his body weight.....which would be very impressive strength imop!

    The thing is that most anabolic steroids are detected way too often to make it worthwhile for an athlete, and when you stop using them you'll lose much of the gains, even with a drug cycle to re-start your body's testosterone production. Also takes weeks, which makes it impractical for most athletes (not bodybuilders, though)
     
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