Stringbed frequency to monitor string tension

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  1. visor

    visor Regular Member

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    Lol... 600 Hz?! Assuming linearity down that low and 30 Hz is equivalent to 1 lb, I'm guessing 10-12 lbs even!
     
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    I guess .75mm at about 18lbs.
     
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    30hz per pound where is that coming from. That would mean a 1200hz string job would be 40lbs!
     
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    ^not starting at 0hz...
     
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    That's right... Here's a single string measurement that kwun did a while back on ZM62. As you can see, quite linear in the range we're interested in... 1 lb equivalent to 30 Hz.

    And these measurements match quite well with my experience with several good stringers.

    NB: these are more representative of stabilized frequencies, ie not right off the machine.

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    Thought I'd share the stringbed frequencies I've been calculating for a while now. Especially if someone somewhere compiles these globally! I think it's a very good indication of consistency for my stringing jobs, and also, it helps to figure out approximate tension of stringbeds when someone asks how much it is.

    All of these were taken right off the machine (klippermate m140)
    Mains are always 1lb less than written tension, crosses 1lb more (ie 23 is 22x24)

    Here is the Excel doc: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ch3wxap58lnef2r/strings.xlsx?dl=0

    David
     
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    Yeah thanks I have seen that. So how did you arrive at 10-12lbs?
     
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    Well, my experience with BG65(0.70mm) @ 24lbs is 975 Hz, so 375/30= 12.5 lbs lower.

    Of course, a 0.75mm factory string would be around 2 lbs more...
     
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    Ah I see thanks.

    I just was wondering since in my experience 28lbs is about 1200hz in bg65 .70 and 24-25lbs bg66um .65 is about 1200hz. So that would suggest 3 or 4lbs difference per .05mm guage increase.

    Given that 28lbs in .70 is about 1200hz, mater got 600hz which is half that, so gives you 14lbs then add on .05mm gauge(probable cheap racket gauge) gives you 17-18lbs which was quite away from your 10-12lbs.

    When I look at it now though there is not as much difference as I thought.
     
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    I finished 2 Adidas P350. One with BG65 blue and one with ZM 62 (2nd gen) yellow yet.
    BG65: Tension: 23x25 PS, 1123 Hz.
    ZM62: Tension: 22x24, 1172 Hz
     
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    Just had strung ZM62 silver 1st generation (=ZM60... even thinner than 2nd gen). At 23x24 lbs, it has stabilized at 1220 Hz after 1 wk.
     
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    Oliver Fetter Smash with BG80 Power @ 22x22: 1131 Hz
     
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    One of my BS10 again. BG80 Power 30x30 lbs: 1315Hz
     
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    Strung an ns 8000 with bg 65 black pinging at 1115.72hz? 24 x 26
     
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    Right off the machine? Must be a flying clamp and crank job, right?
     
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    Yup right off & need to buy new clamps mine are slipping , mbs 6 tooth ones or should I get hiqua 6 tooth. Currently use pros pro ones
     
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    Can't help you. I don't have any experieces with the mbs or hiqua ones. I can only recommend the YY's. They can handle 26lbs with ease. For anything above I use my fixed clamps.
     
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    Ah it's okay thanks , I just ordered mbs ones should be fine.
     
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    This one broke yesterday. Now 30x30 BG Power on the same BS10 again. 1324Hz right off the machine. Should be a constant and reproduceable result.
     
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    Finished my MX80OC yet to beat up some juniors tomorrow. BG80 @30/31. Pings with 1329Hz.
     

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