Swiss Open 2016 Grand Prix Gold (Qualifications round to Finals)

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  1. blabl

    blabl Regular Member

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    To be honest. I lost interest of the MD match since the better Japanese, Indonesian and China MD all lose on the First and second round of the match. For me it goes like why such huge upsets? Well better players lose in the earlier rounds of this MD? So making the match less exciting. Wow yesterday while watching the matches live at the bwf website, so many people complain about refereeing errors. Too bad. Refereeing errors throughout the whole tournament says the people at the website.


    Then I said hmmm..... could the refereeing errors be the reason for this MD to lose in the earlier round. But then still I feel extremely sad about this as I read about the refereeing errors online. Too bad. This is just my personal opinion and I hope what I say will not stir up any controversy here.
     
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    Like WS, MD is also experiencing a strong era. Just shows how amazing Ahsan/Setiawan are, having basically won all the majors they competed in since 2013 (2014 World Champs the only exception I think, as they didn't compete).
     
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    Yes MD getting stronger and so difficult who will win now. I like Mohammed Ahsan / Hendra Setiawan but they are not always in the winning way. Even Lee Yong Dae / Yoo Yeon Seong also proven not to be in the winning mood all the time. Time have changed. Results of the MD became so unpredictable.
     
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    The fact that final features all JPN WD is interesting since CHN WD is usually automatic in the final WD at SS and GP regularly.
     
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    Interesting too can see all Japanese WD on the finals. China still have lots of good WD. It I just a matter of time for them to find the best WD pairs that clicks. Anyway I guess constant changes in the WD partnership of the China WD has taken a toll on their performance.



    I sincerely hope that the China WD coaches will take note of this and form permanent partnership that can produce results quickly. If not it will just be a waste of talent as China have great talented WD but nowadays they are not shinning. So sad
     
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    Ahsan/Setiawan only seem to turn up for the big ones - World Champs, Asian games, and now they have their first chance for Olympics this year. I think if they win Gold, they can be classified as the most clutch MD ever.
     
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    This you are right. I believe that Mohammed Ahsan / Hendra Setiawan stands a better chance to win the gold medals compared to Lee Yong Dae / Yoo Yeon Seong too.
     
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    Prannoy entered finals. Good.
    First finals of this year. I hope he will fight hard for the title. Go Go Prannoy
     
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    SN lost yesterday! :mad: I thought she'll win g2 but a close 21-19 was all she could manage!
    BTW HSP really impressed me! I never imagined he could win deuces:D
    The new user interface is superb! I am loving it:p
     
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    Exactly! Also, I don't find any of my post calling his love/affinity towards CHN "wrong"
     
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    Exactly, HBJ, like all the other CHN juniors due to CBA's policy and practice, only gets to play more senior tournaments when she 's about 19 years old, before that she concentrates on the junior circuit and her senior tournaments, and that only at GP/GPG level, are few and far between, to her huge disadvantage as compared with her peers in other countries.

    HBJ is clearly on the rise, scalping a player of Intanon's calibre is only the beginning. I purposely enthused over HBJ's victory over Intanon and hinted why I did that in a subsequent post. Some people are dense enough not to get it. Incidentally, I recently enthused over Goh Jin Wei's performance in her thread and elsewhere, before that, I have been full of praise for Akane, even Porntip, Intanon, and a few others were lauded by me..

    Once again, Devendra, your fair, balanced,reasonable and more objective views/opinions put those guys to shame.
     
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    I am just exploring the updates (my first login after the improvements) and
    the new alert thing plus whose online mark are great improvements also we have our beloved like button back :)
     
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    China has never been good in MD. It was only Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng that were an exceptional pair.
     
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    I ask you to come out of Chinese circle and see the facts i have said to you before. This whole lot of conversation and discussions started when a chinese die hard fan @ytam1 , who started this without the knowledge of facts and calling Sindhu "mediocre" . My goodness.

    I still stick to my point. The whole lots of youngsters from many countries Akane, Ratchanok, Sindhu , Goh Jinwei all are prodigies .

    Winning SS and GPG is different than winning world championships medal. Saina , though she is very experienced and in the circuit for many years, she got a silver medal only last year. Considering this, getting a bronze medal , that too , two times in a row beating top level chinese players , is a achievement, if you believe it or not.

    HBJ - Nothing to mention about. That's why i said HBJ is already 19, nothing to show like their peers of other nations.

    You have to reply @ytam1 who started this instead of replying to me . He i.s totally wrong and said that without knowing facts.

    Both Ratchanok and Sindhu are out of focus in this tournament. I know how both of them would normally play. They are exceptional players. In this tournament, they both looked like pale reflection of themselves. End of discussion.

    Let us focus on Swiss open.
     
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    Note: My post before the Semifinal matches as I waited for the BC software update!;)

    Kien Keat KOO / Boon Heong TAN had a close 3 game thriller with Marcus ELLIS/Chris LANGRIDGE. They have done well so far ,but are now against a strong Taiwan pair
    LEE Sheng Mu / TSAI Chia Hsin who look likely to win, but Koo/Tan can surprise them!


    HS Prannoy is growing in confidence with each match. He beat Tanongsak SAENSOMBOONSUK
    21-18, 22-24, 21-9 It was a hard fought match. He should have won the match in 2 games. He has a great opportunity to make the final. He can expect a boost in ranking, makes the race for India Rio MS2 intriguing! Tzu Wei WANG beat HSU Jen Hao21-10, 21-17 Tzu another youngster from Taiwan cannot be taken for granted.
    On paper, Prannoy should win but Tzu can spring a surprise! :)


    HE Bingjiao continues her giant killing spree. The next 2-3 years will be a learning curve as she learns to survive the grueling circuit. She has to manage herself well from injuries and maintain fitness. She was also aided by Sindhu being in poor form and low on confidence but that is not her fault. We can expect closer matches when Sindhu regains her form, but in the short term Bingjiao will benefit and gain a psychological advantage.

    She will have a hard battle with SunYu. It is never easy playing with training partners. Each will try to outwit the other. Sun Yu does have more playing experience. China is guaranteed of one WS in the final.

    PV Sindhu is struggling from too much badminton. She needs a break like Saina to relax, focus, train and bounce back.

    After winning the Macau GPG instead of resting she jumped into the Indonesia GPG and lost to Bingjiao. She doesn’t do well in back to back tournaments.

    Sindhu won the Malaysia GPG and lost early in the India GPG to Nitchaon Jindapol.

    Her performance went downhill from the India GPG

    1. She played singles and doubles in the Asian Team Championships which was a huge physical and mental overload. It affected her singles performance as she had to save energy for the doubles matches.

    2. She is now struggling to beat players she normally overcomes like Michelle Li, Porntip BURANAPRASERTSUK and players in the top 30.

    3.Her performance has become erratic and she has also become low on confidence.

    4.She is lined up to play in another 5 tournaments from March 29- May 1, 2016

    India SS,

    Malaysia SSP,

    Singapore SS

    China GPG

    Badminton Asia Championships


    She will continue to perform poorly, if she doesn’t take a break.

    All the players will have a long break from mid June till Aug before the Olympics. But if she waits until then, she will be embarrassed by lower ranked players.


    Saina Nehwal took a long break and is slowly getting back into rhythm.

    I will only fault her for skipping the German GPG. If she had played in that she had a better chance of making the All England final. In each tournament she plays she will get better.

    Saina is also lined up to play in the above tournaments so we can’t expect her to play well in everything. She will gain points at China and Singapore. It is good that the ranking on July 17 will determine the seeds. Saina still has a good chance of becoming a seed. In the worst case she fails to make it, the seeds will not be happy to face her in round 1!

    Saina was well prepared by Sayaka Sato 13-21, 21-15, 21-14

    Saina still needs work on moving around the court. She took time to get into a rhythm in game 1. But in game 2 and 3 she was playing well.

    Wang Yihan is a class player and the oldest ‘Golden flower’. She beat Busanan ONGBUMRUNGPHAN with ease 21-13 21-10. Her match against Saina in the World Championship 2015 was a classic. We can expect a hard fought match played with passion. Yihan used to be Saina’s biggest nemisis but now it has changed with Saina winning the last 3 matches. This match is 50:50 Go Saina! :)
     
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    Saina Nehwal disappoints, but her performance was expected. We have to be patient with her, as she starts getting match fit. Wang Yihan was relentless and showed why she is still a dangerous player. Yes, she has problems with Okuhara N. but so do many others! She will join a Chinese party in all China Final with He Bingjiao. You have to feel for Sun Yu she will now lose her place in the Uber cup. It’s ‘Golden flower’ vs ‘Little flower’. Yihan should win but Bingjiao might surprise her! ;)


    HS Prannoy continues his dream run into the final! Tzu Wei WANG was better at the net, forcing Prannoy to change his strategy.Prannoy was erratic in game 1 and gifted 10+ points. He played well in game 2 and 3. He has to learn to finish matches in 2 games, especially against top players. He is up against an experienced Marc ZWIEBLER . Marc had a hard fought match against Henri HURSKAINEN either Henri has improved a lot or Marc was inconsistent. Marc is a tricky left hander and can be lethal. Both players have the hunger to win, but Prannoy needs this win more for keeping his hopes of MS2 Rio ticket. It looks 50:50 with Marc having the crowd advantage, which might tip the match in his favour. Prannoy needs a fairytale performance! :)
    PS I like the new software, I am still learning to use it! Thank you and appreciate all the hard work to get this software! :)
     
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    Exactly, all the Chinese MD teams are too conservative with their smashes, often throwing half smashes or chops when they should have gone for the kill with big smashes.
    Another negative point about Chinese MD pairs are they are ALWAYS 1 big smasher and 1 front court player who is relatively super weak with big smashes, the big smashers will smash all their chances till he is totally burned out while his partner will not chip in his smashes. With China big population and huge popularity in badminton, why the Chinese Badmintion Federation cannot find 2 big smashers into 1 MD team is beyond me, all the Korean MD players are super big hitters with smashes.
    Another big difference between Korean and Chinese MD is attitude, the Koreans MD pairs are very aggressive and Chinese MD teams are too conservative when attacking. When chances arise, the Korean MD teams will kill every birdie so hard as if the birdie are nuclear ballistic missiles from the North till the opponents team's defence break upon tremendous pressures; the Chinese MD teams at most can only throw in 3-5 conservative smashes, then they will go for chops or half smashes where top level opponents can now easily recover from a passive defensive positions to a more positive attacking positions.
    Chinese MD teams can never improve if the LYB and his MD coaches refuse to acknowledge these points. The alarming thing is, the Chinese WD teams are now starting to face the problems now.
     
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    Yesterday Wan Yihan was again inconsistent and unpredictable. In G1 with Saina, WYH was smooth and in control winning it in style. Then in G2, she was suddenly error-prone, throwing away a series of points to let Saina back into the game. Good thing is she managed to close it out in two sets by taking the final two points at 19-all.

    In today's final, if WYH continues her see-saw form, my bet is on HBJ who, incidentally, beat her in the previous encounter in the CBSL (Chinese badminton league).
     
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    I hate Chinese WS vs Wang Yihan matches. He Bingjiao will not be as aggressive as she could be. Wang Yihan should hang up her rackets after the Uber Cup. Best way to finish on top.
     
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    I must say I agree with you. I am sure He Bingjiao will go all out to win the game today.




    Oh another thing for your information. I remembered you ask why Goh Jin Wei didn't play in Malaysia open. For your information Goh Jin Wei and some Malaysia badminton players have left to play in Poland Open next week and Orleans Open the next week. Unfortunately after Orleans open immediately it is the Malaysian open. Hence those Malaysian players playing in Poland and Orleans open won't be able to reach Malaysia in time. So those players playing in Poland and Orleans open have to be withdrawn from the Malaysia open. Sorry clash of schedule here.
     

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