Yonex ASTROX 77 (2017)

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  1. R20190

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    I think the GOAT acronym has been used quite loosely on this forum and although it is subjective to some degree, I don't think many would agree that the NR900 is the most aerodynamic racquet ever made.

    I for one would not agree with that, in fact it wouldn't even make my top 5, possibly even top 10. Some people also confuse an aerodynamically fast racquet with one that is easy to manoeuvre. For example the ArcZS is aerodynamically one the best so you will feel the benefits in a fast swing, but because it is slightly head heavy, it isn't the fastest to manoeuvre and so some may consider it slower than some head lighter racquets.
     
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    Seriously, why can't there be a program like that?
     
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    As well as Carbonex,Arcsaber is also older than Voltric !!!!!
     
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    Carbonex was succeeded by Arcsaber, succeeded by Duora, no?

    Either way, all of these have the horizontal A concept? The Astrox is going to have... interesting feedback I think...
     
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    I reckon the HAC might have caused/contributed to the shite feel of the Z-Speed.
    Something did, anyway; I think they tried too many new techs at once on that thing...
     
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    I thought the snapback zone did it but apparently the z strike has the same issues
     
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    what about muscle power or ISO?
     
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    Mp got succeeded by AT and then voltric, no? ISO, think that was a mid point between cab and arcsaber. I first played in 2005 or so, so I'm not the end all here but I remember people back then having musclepowers
     
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    MP 77 and MP 99 i remember were fairly even

    MP 88 and MP 100 were the head heavier ones if i recall correctly.
     
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    I guess they get succeeded in different ways, the ns rackets were much more headlight than the nr rackets right? But they shifted to aerodynamic as against headlight
     
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    overall i would say i feel the same. NS vs NR has been fairly underwhelming, and that for me the only real NR that would have succeeded NS is the NR800.
    i would have loved a true successor to NS9900, but NR900 isn't bad either for what it is trying to be.
     
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    As an n90 user, I feel the voltrics are more hh than the old Ats but are also more aerodynamic, making power transfer... different. Better if you're really strong as a player, but I find the AT style rackets easier to use.
     
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    You and me both - a mega-stiff headlight and I would still be on Yonex myself.
     
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    I didn't experience this. IIRC the last AT700 3U I got was a 46g+ headweight banger and VTZF1 3U was on par. I still have a AT250 3U which is also 44g(dry) headweight. I wouldn't point out a noticable difference. VTZF4U also hit 43g headweight dry. Wouldn't call any series more hh or more hl.
     
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    that's a good way to describe it, i'm still on the hunt for an AT900T myself. i thought that was a brilliant racquet that didn't really have a successor in VT range (maybe VT80ETN with lower parts? but i don't have the patience to keep restringing-- no use in cutting perfectly good strings...)
     
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    I dunno, holding a zf2 now I definitely feel the weight in the head, but the n90 feels a lot closer to the handle. It actually feels even balance to me at this point.
     
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    Even so it gets a bit offtopic now, but since there are alot of ex-AT users here. I have been playing with an at900p 3u for a long time now, would you say it should be possible for me to translate this to a 3u zf ii or is this racket on a complete other level?
     
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    As far as I could remember, Bridgestone was the first brand which made a racket frame with a triangular cross-sectional profile.
     
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    My 3UG5 AT700(OC) has 43g+ headweight. With bg66u & 2 pcs of thin overgrip. Bp is 291. While my 4UG5 VTZF2 LV has 42g+ headweight. With bg66u & toalson neo-quick on the original grip. But, the bp is 294.
    The weight of AT700 is 98g+, while the VTZF2 is 94g+
    I think, the weight at the top of AT700 frame is balanced by a weightier grip, just like the Astrox picture that explaining the weight distribution compared with voltric.
     
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    Yes true, I believe I am the only one in the forums that ranks the NR900 as the overall best racket out there (although it breaks too easily). I guess I get your point that aerodynamic can be a technical definition, and NR900 I agree does not fit in that category. I correct it to be one that is easy to manoeuvre for me without sacrificing too much power. Any lighter rackets I will swing at virtually the same speed, so therefore that is the best for me..
     

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