Professional players and their racquets

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  1. razorei

    razorei Regular Member

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    So, unlike what i've understanded, they are not representing officially Korea anymore but playing individually.
    Could they participate to big tournament like WC this way?
     
  2. Rimano

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    Apparently not according to this (not sure how reliable) https://www.thestar.com.my/sport/ba...forget-superseries-and-grand-prix-gold-meets/

    Apparently Hendra Setiawan was also denied a WC entry playing with Tan Boon Hong by PBSI.
     
  3. esppy

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    They can. If they steamroll everybody non stop and climb to high enough rank to enter a WC.

    And also, if BKA registers them for it. Which BKA lost the lawsuit to and they are obliged to now, legally.

    And if they outshine BKA's own MD pairs, BKA can choose to field them in their next TUC/Sudirman campaign, both parties willing as a premise.



    The TBH Hendra issue was blocked by PBSI for fear that they may cannibalize the national team's chances, which is stupid. But hey, valid concern.

    BWF's issues is that they empower each country's association with too much power to decide who gets to enter what, thus such blocks happen, and deserving pairs don't get their chance.
     
  4. Rimano

    Rimano Regular Member

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    Care to clarify this?

    "The Seoul High Court has ordered BKA to suspend their regulation that states the former male international with Olympic medals or Asian Games and World Championships gold medals are barred from competing independently until they reach age 31 (age 29 for women)."

    My understanding was that they challenged the age restriction, but BKA still have ultimate control.
    "The BWF rules did stipulate that independent players cannot sign up for events on their own but must go through their country’s BA."

    Taken from https://www.thestar.com.my/sport/ba...as-independent-shuttlers/#EqrjYgXytvYSXMya.99
     
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    I don't know, but going by logical inferencing, don't you think BKA would listen to the high court despite having control in the area of registering just because BWF lets them have the control? Bit absurd wouldn't it? I mean, BKA isn't an embassy, Korea's laws do apply to them.

    It really sounds wacky, your understanding... picture this:
    The Court/law states that child pornography is no go, including selling your own child for porn.
    But you are the parent to your kid, and you decide, hey, it's MY KID and I want some dough, I choose what to do with him!
    Would you, at this juncture, dare to defy the law and the court's orders and peddle your offspring for porn anyway?

    From my angle of understanding, BKA is now just a channel to sign up for BWF sanctioned events in the same way I turn up at a booth to register for a marathon, even if I'm 400 pounds heavy and in a wheelcart and on life support.

    But take it as I'm wrong, so.... how else would you explain Shin Baek Cheol being able to play in Vietnam despite now being only 28 (29 in Korean counting) of age? By their old rule, BKA would have cockblocked KSH/SBC to no end, and sames goes for KKJ at 28(29) with LYD.

    TBH I chose not to reply after seeing @razorei 's question, but your reply took it a bit skewed too far off the course that I thought, yeah I should chime in with my 2 cents in case someone buys into the idea that no, they apparently cannot enter the WC.
    In direct answering in Korea context, on paper and in the ideal situation and scenario, THEY CAN.
    Because you used a link and their decision, quoting BAM which is from Malaysia, and directly slapping it onto BKA, which is from Korea. How reliable is that?





    Food for thought, it seems like BAM already backtracked their decision with the demise of the Superseries and GPG, since Liew Daren was allowed to be in a World Tour Series 500 level competition, which is akin to a Superseries level of yesteryear.
    Also Liew Daren got entered into the World Championships, a Grade 1 event; higher than SSP.
    Or they use the word for word logic that "independent players cannot play SS, but now its WTS, so all is well"?
     
  6. Rimano

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    Still don't understand your logic.
    My understanding was BKA was forced to backtrack on the age limit and that allowed SBC to compete.

    Granted my first reply should've been if only BKA allows it, which is still a massive if. In the end the badminton associations have their own best interests at heart and that if an independent player gets in way of a national team player, who do you think will get preference.

    Regarding Daren Liew, first link I sent mentions him. Please read the whole thing. There's also a line where it mentions other badminton associations like BKA and PBSI have the final say.

    I think I've backed up all my points. Learn to have a discussion without trying to flame.

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    Rimano Regular Member

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    Actually backtracking on my argument, concerning BKA, Lee Hyun Il was allowed to complete independently and seemed to enter most of the high level tournaments. I guess the real question here is what BKA will do when faced with potentially 2 world class independent men doubles competing with their own national team.

    Anyway, apologies for the off topic.
     
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    SHB65XW for lyd, SHB03ZM for KKJ.
     
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    Duora LT for KKJ?
     
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    Eh?? There's clearly a green cone and red frame.

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    Renmazuo27 Regular Member

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    Apologies, I need to look a bit harder. Spray of colors on the head messed me up.
     
  12. Stever7425

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    Gone from his 88D,?[​IMG]

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    Did he ever use one?
     
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    he never used 88d. This year he went from voltric 80e (swiss open) to 88s (all england until European Championships), then to z-strike (us open until akita masters) and now back to voltric 80e.
     
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    88S then apologies.. wonder is he blaming racket for form,

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    Not at all. Probably just experimenting a bit and now going back to what used to work.
     
  17. esppy

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    So Minatsu Mitani is on Duora7, and Kirsty Gilmour from Yonex NRZSP to now Victor sponsored, and using a TK-F.
    Along with SH-A920's.
     
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    I think Mitani is using astrox 99. It looks orange to me.
     
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    any idea if LYD is using 88s 3u or 4u
     
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    i think mitani is using a duo7. it looks red, black, and white to me.
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