Offensive racquet (frequent tendonitis)

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  1. Serial42

    Serial42 Regular Member

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    Yes, I saw osteopath and physio.

    The pain is caused by too much tendon tension during my play.
    Otherwise, I feel no pain when I wear heavy things, other sports like running, nothing.

    That's why I think I have to move towards a lighter racket as you say, but can you give me models (profile rather attacking) ?
    I have a head heavy racket, medium flexible shaft. Do you know if I go to the Yonex Nanoray Series for example, will be good ?
     
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    See if u can get a nanoray 700fx or 700rp.. 4u or 5u only.. that’s my preference for u.. if that sounds costly then try any of lining “I” version Turbocharging series based on ur $$$


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    Okay and how about the flexibility of shaft ?

    I should avoid too stiff rackets for me, no ? Because Nanoray 700RP is stiff
     
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    700fx and Rp are flex. Most of the turbocharging “I” version rackets are medium stiff to flex only..

    If u have a light racket then no need to worry abt stiff. Stiffs shafts are related to the racket control and power only. U can choose medium stiff.

    Remember u will have to get used to it now with lighter and medium flex shafts it’s not an easy challenge.. your playing style and swing speed is going to change..adapt to it


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  5. Serial42

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    Yes, but
    Yes, I'm bored in the game and I need to adapt to something else.

    In France, with head light racket corresponding, I have 4 choices :
    - Kawasaki High tension 666 AD (4U)
    - Yonex Nanoray I-Speed (3U)
    - Yonex Duora 7 2018 (3U)
    - Yonex Duora 77 2019 (3U)

    Can you keep an eye about these 4 rackets and recommend one of them please ?
     
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    No real doctors IMO. Have you seen a specialist in sports medicine or a neurologists? A physio is no doctor and an osteopath is a voodoo priest of alternative medicine. As long as there is no picture or measurement of the inside of the arm you really don't know what's going on.
     
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    None. Don't choose any lighter racket!!! Light rackets are for people with a superb technique and a healthy arm. Trust me it will make your issues worse. The lacking resistence and faster movements will put more stress on it.
     
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    I prefer you recommend me some models please. It's easily for me to see what I need.

    But actually, I have a head heavy racket... So it will be worse if I take a heavy racket ...
     
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    Yes could be.. with lighter rackets u need to swing hard to generate the extra force. So it might worsen the issue. I didn’t think from this aspect.. thanks for the head up @ucantseeme


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    Drop your tension and choosing a softer string is enough in the equipment department. E.g. use BG65 at 21lbs to make the impact of the shuttle a bit more easy on your arm.

    Choosing a different racket sounds promising, but a wrong racket is not the reason for your issues. As long your physio and osteopath didn't fixed your issue, you should see a different kind of doctor, not buy a different kind of racket. There are various reasons for your issues. From sleeping on the arm to food intolerance to a slightly dislocation to a born tightness in this spot etc.

    What did you against the inflammation? Did you take NSAR's? Did you rest a few weeks and did several times a day a 15minutes ice package on it? Did you stop hot shower etc.?

    How do you warm up? Arrive and hitting clears? Do you sit sometimes on the bench during club nights and continue playing without any gentle warm up?
     
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    Massage on pain, electromagnetic waves, local natural anti-inflammatory cream, ice on the pain after training, stop badminton during 5 months.

    You choose a Nanoray series who is a head light series racket.
    After that, you told me that we must to stay ihead heavy racket and don't use head light racket...
     
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    Well @ucantseeme is right, i didnt think about the swing speed that you need to create to be able to achieve the clears and smash. My apologies. I think u should follow what @ucantseeme says to recover, looks like he has already faced this problem and managed to get out of the issue.
     
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    If I wasn’t injured, vibrations don’t affect my arm but once I had the tendinitis, the vibrations really hurt.

    Definitely look at changing racquets and possibly brand. That’s one reason why I went back to using yonex. I just felt the dampening was better than some other brands. Of course it could be psychological. Wonder if any of the others have an opinion on that.

    Which racquet to use is really a pain. I think it is very individual so you will have to borrow and try different racquets
     
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    I saw a sports physio. I felt the consultation was very thorough and better than a doctor because they spent a lot of time examining and educating me on specific exercises. A doctor definitely wouldn’t have spent so much time on me, nor given me such good advice on exercises.
     
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    My last post on this: It didn't help you, so see a different kind of doctor, who measure the nerves, exermine your blood and make a MRT. I think you can't skip pills or injections. Maybe a surgery. You face here a chronic issue which didn't go away with natural treatment. We can't do anything for you here. Anything is said.
     
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    If your physio cured your problem, everything went right. His physio and osteopath didn't cured his problem (which can not be the same like yours). That's my point. If you have a problem and can even cure it with drinking water during fullmoon, everything is right, but as long as your doctor don't help you and you go a half year through pain it is time to so a different doctor or different kind which see the problem through different eyes with a different treatment. It's just my view to solve problems if they don't get solved. Each doctor is not specialiced for a specific problem and even physios are not equal educated and shine in each area of our complex bodys. If he has a e.g. gluten intolerance which cause his pain/inflammation no physio in the world will cure it with exercises. A physio can be supportive, but the source of the problem (which is not defined clearly) must be found.
     
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    I'm totally agree with you !
    But rest the tendon and change rackets are two things that I have never doing before. That's why I want to try.

    @ucantseeme, thanks to your similar experience on my case, I need to have some models that you will advise me.
    And if it's the same with racket et rest tendon, I'll see a different doctor :)
     
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    The key word, which I don’t think I specified very well, was that I saw a sports physio. OP might have seen an ordinary physio who didn’t really take lifestyle factors into account. Difficult to know with the lack of details.

    My physio had time to talk to me, know that I play competitive sports, knows what level I aim for in order to really understand the patient. That is important information in the treatment. Time to exam me, check my muscular imbalances, asymmetry etc to find the cause. I was hugely impressed but then again, that’s why I picked a sports physio clinic to get diagnosed and treated properly targeted to my objectives. For my particular clinic, they have a lot of patients with high requirements and I went there for their experience.

    Definitely we know the cause will be overuse and poor technique, but usually we are unaware of other factors that would make the problem much worse. The best thing the doctor can do for this sort of injury is:

    a) confirm the area of injury, then

    b) send the patient to the appropriate physio with the proper expertise.

    To be honest, a) will be done by the physio as well :D
     
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    The health system and also treatment in HK might be different compared to Europe. My sister in law was a nurse in HK. Here run things totally different and as said before, you can have same symptoms at the same spot during the same kind of sports, but the cause can be very different.

    To get here physiotherapy you need to go specialist for sports medicine who will make the diagnosis to get it paid by your health insurance. He will do MRT and anything for diagnostic and decide the further treatment. A physio is here not allowed here to make any diagnosis by law. That's my point for my arguments. Maybe I wasn't clear. To get anything what you said, OP must see a doctor and that's a) and oooppps what did I said?

    a) doctor for diagnostic procedure
    b) specialist(s) with extended diagnostic power
    c) physio therapy, medicine, surgery, or whatever based on the diagnostic

    I don't totally disagree with you, but some advices don't work for the whole world and each health system.:)BTW my female partner had pain in her wrist. Could be overuse or poor technique, right? Wrong, she is gluten intolerant. Since she skip it no issues. If I were you I would be very careful with making diagnosis in an internet forum without seeing the patient. Some people can have a cold, are allergic to nuts, have cancer or H5N1 just based on same symptoms.
     
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    In UK and Australia, you can see a private physiotherapist of your choice. You can even pay out of pocket. Yes, different systems. As I wrote before, not enough information on the OP’s physio which is why I won’t bring different healthcare systems into this conversation. You are talking to a guy who studied policy in healthcare systems and worked in public healthcare systems in different countries.
     

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