Which racket is most similar to Bravesword 11 with the same sword frame?

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  1. s6edge

    s6edge Regular Member

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    Can you share some experience you have with the 90S or 90K, please?
     
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    90s is very easy to use and good at most things, kind of the equivalent to bs12 but a little less flex.

    90k is more extreme, more head heavy for power player.
     
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    s6edge Regular Member

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    Are the 90S and 90K same stiffness?
     
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    I have used ARS90S for over a year and got ARS90K a few weeks ago. As poster stated above the 90K is angled more to power and is head heavier and stiffer than the 90S. 90K is like my Jetspeed12M.
     
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    I would leap on BS LHI 3U if it came back. My son’s go-to racket, but he’s down to one.
     
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    s6edge Regular Member

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    Which BS racket does the BS LHI 3U most similar too? BS12?
     
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    Basically the same as BS11, some say minor differences rather than just a repaint.
     
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    No. Different feel. As for new paint BS11, it seems that a few folk have said it plays differently.
    The good news about being young is that my son can adjust to something new. But I feel for those who play at a high level and are really used to a specific discontinued racket
     
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    The BS11R is a different racket, that is a completely different frame profile and materials.
     
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    For the OP, after playing over 1 year with Bravesword 11 4u (~83g dry) and many other victor rackets, i can highly recommend the Auraspeed 70k (old version).
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    I played with the AS70k 3u for over 3 years now, and realized it and BS11 are almost identical in stiffness, head heaviness, and weight, to the point where i can even change them during in the middle of a session. I could never do that even with very similar rackets, so this is a first for me as well.

    The only difference is that Auraspeed 70k has a bigger racket head, which means technically it SHOULD have less repulsion and power than the BS11, since in a vacuum, a compact head should have a smaller sweetspot and more explosiveness. But somehow, the AS70k has much better repulsion and smash than the BS11, and on top of that, it has a bigger sweetspot, which means its 'better during defense and drives than the BS11 since it's more forgiving. To me, that makes the BS11 more of a training racket that I use to build up my strength during training sessions, the AS70k is simply better in every way, and i regard BS11 as one of the best rackets I've played with.

    Since the BS11 is 4u and AS70k is 3U, I decided to add weighted lead tape on the BS11 to match the head weight and total weight of the AS70K, and while the power did increase, it still had less repulsion and smash power compared to the AS70k.

    If you want something similar to BS11, I can tell you after years of playing with the AS70k, that this is not just similar, but almost identical to the BS11 except the AS70k:

    - is more forgiving due to a bigger sweetspot
    - is more explosive and has better repulsion
    - more readily available to purchase across global markets

    So yes, for those who loved the BS11, I highly recommend the Auraspeed 70k. I rarely call a racket a better version of something else - especially a classic like the BS11 - but in this case, the AS70k was simply a better version, or an upgrade of the BS11 in every way.

    FYI the multiple 3u AS70k that I bought were all along the lines of 87-89g and 293mm BP when measured dry (including plastic wrap on grip).
     
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    The BS12SE is a similar feel to the BS11/BSLHI.

    The Auraspeed frame has never felt as fast as the Bravesword frame to me.
     
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    I'd say the feedback isn't as sharp as the BS11, but during defense and drives i found it hard to tell the swing difference between the two rackets. During smashes the BS11 did have slightly less air resistance, but it had less repulsion.

    Which is weird because the BS9 i have has much more repulsion than BS11 and even the AS70k, even though the balance and stiffness is similar enough for all 3. I think that's because the two BS rackets, despite both being BS, have different frames, with the the BS9 being thicker.
     
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    Yes the BS08 and BS09 were a thicker frame whereas the BS12SE has a very similar if not the same frame as the BS11/BSLHI which is stiffer and more head heavy than the original BS12.
     
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    I like my BS10.. stop playing it for a while when I got Astrox 88D 1st gen.. couple of weeks back I for fun, use it back and damn, until today I didn't touch my astrox yet.. old but gold! :D
     
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