Taufik Vs Lin Dan

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  1. taufik-ist

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    are u newbee in badminton ? :),
    it's not rally like car rally, players stroke/hit the shuttle each other without smashing in some period time
     
  2. ffc2002

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    well..i think.. Taufik will get great achievement if he has big motivation
    that's what we had seen in World Champ and olympiade (for gold medals..)
    as a tehniques..they almost same..world player qualification..
    But when he get tired of motivation..that when we see Taufik lost to Simon (Indonesia Open)..Taufik play with his "Moody"..:rolleyes:
    Well tehniques and physics are important but i think motivation is more important than both of that...
    And as usual..PBSI not give some 'big' target to them..it's just like an exercise before Sea Games for them (specially for Taufik)..:D
     
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    why is bao more talented than Taufik?:confused:
    I dun see any significance when Bao plays on court...
    Somehow his matches are not memorable...
    Where as Kenneth Jonassen.. who has similar height to Bao... play so much more dynamic compared to Bao.. and his defence is just superb..
    Anyway.. my bet is on LD this time.. because he might have the crowds advantage... somehow I have a feeling Taufik wont be motivated to win.. and might even drop out in early rounds... but looking forward to AE2006 when Taufik will grab his final title and be known as one of the greatest badminton legend alive!!! :p
     
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    if bao were more talented than taufik, he would had been OC champion or WC champion :)

    taufik's just less motivation when he meets bao
    bao never wins a big tournaments (5 * or 6 * tournaments)
     
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    Why are you so sure it's gonna be taufik vs. lin dan? :confused: Lin dan might loose to peter gade or lee hyun ill. And taufik might loose to lee chong wei or wong chong hann as well!!!
     
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    becos it's more interesting if the semifinal is lindan versus taufik hidayat

    why:

    1. lindan represents the best trained player and taufik represents the most talented player.
    2.lindan is # 1 player and taufik is former # 1 player (2001), the wc champion
    3. i'm sure than lin dan wants to rematch after his badly lost to taufik in wc final
     
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    1) Excellent point

    2) Yep.

    3) Disagree, I bet LD wants to avoid Taufik under all circumstances. LD has everything to lose being the "#1 Player". There's a lot of pressure being # 1. :p
     
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    If you look the score board between Bao and Taufik, you will know why Bao is more talented, but Bao lack other abilities and did not use his talent under Chinese system. Did you remeber while in SD cup, China put Bao in MS while playing INA instead of Lin? And Taufik lost, you can not say Taufik was not motivated for SD cup. Acutally, Bao and Taufik rarely met in 5* and 6* open tournaments recent years except every SD cup which China purposely let Bao face Taufik.

    I do not think Bao can do much better now days since his style just not fit in China system. While he grows, the conflict is much obvious.

    For HK open, I could not see Lin can do better than world championship. For Taufik, while he is in form and mode, no one can stop him at moment except Bao. But Bao would be knocked out in earlier round I guess by someone else.
     
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    u mean u think ji xinpeng is more talented than peter gade and hendrawan?:rolleyes:
     
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    There is NO WAY Bao is more talented than Taufik. The better explanation is that certain players cannot handle the style of another. In this case Taufik has always had difficulty against Bao's style.
     
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    I would have to argue against this. I would have to say many of the shots Bao executes are more precise in terms of finger movements than Taufik. Bao's style of play is completely different from that of other players, but it's so subtle that you wouldn't be able to tell the different unless you were very analytical. It's very rare that you see a player that uses his style on the world circuit because it's so hard to maintain that level of play with it, since it requires a great deal of precision and awesome footwork. I'm pretty sure most players in China are trained with it, but then their style progresses to the more wristy stuff that pretty much everyone uses. I'm not sure Bao's style is his problem though, it really just boils down to his mental consistency. I would have to admit Taufik is better at the net, and has a lot more power and mental toughness than Bao. Then again I could just be biased cause I think Bao Chunlai is awesome. :p
     
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    IMO Bao is sure very talented but he is nowhere near Taufik. I mean, Taufik's backhand is a gifth from heaven and his net shots are unbeatable. This is of course my opinion :p

    I think Taufik hasn't got used to Bao style yet. A Taufik Vs Bao match would be very exciting as Bao is the only player (beside WCH) that Taufik can't beat consistantly.

    Oh and S4MadMan, I'm sure Lin would prefer to avoid Taufik but I think its the same in Taufik's case. One thing is sure tough, if they have to clash, Lin will give his best while Taufik... we don't know...
     
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    I don't think Taufik is afraid to play LD. He knows LD's weaknesses and knows how to expose them. :p
     
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    I'll just wait for a LCW vs X match...
     
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    Just Like What I Said!!...

    just like what i said..although e'body waiting for Lin Dan vs Taufik match but we must wait probably until next tourney (China Open)..
    He's moody person..the next tourney that he want to be as champion is All England!! probabbly we can't see his best motivation like Olympiade and WC until next All England..
    Buddy...tehniques and physiscs are important but motivation more important than that!!!;)
    Let's just make a hope he will add the motivation for China Open..(where there's no Malay player, Ok..):rolleyes:
     
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    taufik is definitely a superb player and right now a world champion and an olympic champion.No one can dispute that,not even lin dan.But to say whenever he loses,he is not in the mood,it is unspotsmanlike.Bear in mind,you are spoiling his reputation.Taufik is a genuine fine gentleman,cos whenever he loses he gives credit to his opponent.He never mentions that he is not in the mood.Hope you are sporting enough to take this comment in good faith.I like Taufik too,especially his explosive response.
     
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    can't agree with you more !
     
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    Maybe you don't really know..
    let me tell you something..what he want to reach after WC is All England..
    and he get really big attention for that tournament..
    maybe he plays so well..but it's not maximum..(i don't get the feel when he's won the olympiade and WC)
     

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