LD Bashers really annoy me

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  1. DinkAlot

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    Yep, if some are not satisfied, go argue with the IBF, the recognized authority in the world badminton realm. :p

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  2. MiaMia

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    HCYong, I am with ya! Frankly , i am quite new to this forum, but the animosity that some people here hold against LinDan is strinking to me. If he wins, oh, it is merely the result of his better physical fitness and other player(s)' absence/lack of motivation; if he loses, see, it proves that he is not that great! on the contrary, God forbid, if other player(s) loses, oh, it is only because he(they) do not WANT to win! give me a break! this is professional sport, one needs a whole package: technique, physical fitness, mental strength, determination, etc.
    there is nothing wrong being somebody's fans and having preference, but non-stop bashing does not bring superiority and glory to your hero.
     
  3. Sons of M'sia

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    Come'on,y so care about wat ppl said??Dun take it so serious...LD is the best now,no can can deny it,but LD's techniques n skills r not as good as Gade's n Taufik's is also a fact.There sure got some reasons y the ppp said like tat.Do u really think tat LD is best in all kind?

    Let me speak as a middle 1...I'm big fan of Sun Jun,I always watch him plays very long time ago,so just say I have no love wif LD,Taufik or Gade(I suppose hate him cuz he is achrival to Sun Jun).Let see,if u compare the badminton now n the past,u'll see there's a gap,now is not as compatative as before,yesterdays there have DongJiong, SunJun,XuenZe,ChenHong, Hendrawan,FungPermadi,ChoongHan Taufik, Mainaky, Arbi, HoyerLarsen,Gade n some tat can make big upset.They all r in the same level,can u imagine how compatative is it?But now,there r only LD,BCL,ChongWei,Taufik,Sony or maybe Gade.Even BCL,Sony n ChongWei still a bit lack behind.U can even guess who will win.

    SO consider wat Gade has done n achieve in d past decade,sometimes he really impressed me,his skills n speed r just astonishing.But his lack of mentally fitness made him always shorts of expectation,tat's y he only manage finish as finalist n semi finalist in WC n Olympic.The fate also made a great joke to him as he suffer a serious injuries when he just 25(a year which is golden year for a player as they become mature).U c,untill now(still able plays n give great challenge to the young players) still got ppl always mention Gade,he is simply the best,at all time.Even SunJun is world champion b4,now not many ppl remember him.....Aiks....:crying:

    LD also doing well todays,I really like his fighting spirit,tat's make hold an advantge over other players.Technique not good nvm,it can be learn,it'll will become better over the years.Taufik is such a talent,he start playing when he is just 17(not in junior level).After many years as he grow mature in both mind n technique n yet still very young,he is very dangeroues to LD.

    Every players r special,some ppl said LD is not as good as Taukik n Gade this may bcoz of Gade n Taufik had played for a long time n three of them play in different "world".Just like I said ,the badminton quality now really cant match wif b4.So,LD is the best now,but still not so convincing,he still need to prove himself.:)

    #My english very poor,hope u all understand...
     
  4. siaoxing

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    Guy, too me i think that is unfair to Lin Dan. If your say that he not good compare to other player.. by saying his technique is not better than other player.. okie.. i accept that.. but if you are say that he win other just becoz he is fitter physical and more endurance.. it totally lame.. :mad: in badminton our training include technique and fitness and endurance.. it just that Lin Dan choose to train more on fitness and endurance.. to compensate on his weak area.. Who is born out to be ALREADY fitness.. NO ONE... IT all hardwork and endurance.. and as you train your fitness you train your endurance too.. IS THERE ANYHING WRONG WITH THAT?? After all i still think that he is a more complete player compare to other..

    And in badminton, it doesnt mean that if taufik manage to win Lin Dan, taufik is still not the best.. or number one.. coz somehow the mental stress you get when you face with different player.. and i believe all badminton player has came across with it..
     
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    i wonder if Lin dan knows this BC site...

    he'll be upset to see so many posts againts him :)
     
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    seeing as they mostly come from taufik fans, im sure he won't be too bothered:p

    seriously tho, a professional athlete should really not be too put off by comments from a internet forum....


    but if he is reading this thread...
    please..
    1 improve your net play
    2 improve your deception
    3 improve your backhand so u don't have to cover it so much
    4 dont lose concentration and play around in the match
    5 jia you in 2006
    :)
     
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    I'm not really a Lin Dan fan. but the fact that he's ranked one is absolute and undeniable....

    but i just fancy Gade more..i like his style of play...there's nothign wrong with an opinion....

    saying LD is better "because fo his stamina" is foolish...lame excuse
     
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    soft bashing :)
     
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    huh? what is soft bashing?

    in my book what i said would count as constructuve criticism and encouragement:rolleyes: (well that's how i meant it)
    obviously he has professionals to do that for him, but that was just my opinion on his weaknesses.
     
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    His net play is somehow already very good but ppl tend to always compare him with Taufik so... not fair.

    If you carefully watch how he hit the bird, you will realize how his shots are deceptive and his speed can cover his backhand. I don't see why covering more court while hitting the bird is more advantageous than using a backhand especially when Lin has a lot of stamina.

    Agree in the 4th and 5th point though :p

    Lin is a great player!
     
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    More often than not I have seen Taufik destroy Lin at the net duals....but who doesn't get killed by Taufik at net anyways (gade perhaps)??
    I think the problem with his net skills is that they're not consistent, I watched some games where he was really sharp (denmark open 04 final vs xia) and some other games he was just not getting it over.

    About the deception part, Lin has pulled off some of the most deceptive shots I've ever seen and there are many instances where Lin litterally wrongfoots :eek: his opponents in many games so I dont know where this comes from...
     
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    well, surely as a top professional, you need to compare with those better than u to find faults and things to improve? I'm not saying his net shots are crap, but that is a part of his play that would greatly help him if it was improved. From what i remember (i'm not expert), many of his netshots just involve getting it back over straight. he does not seem to be able to play consistent deceptive cross court nets-or doesn't like to anyway.

    mmm i guess i meant to try and work some BCL type deceptive slices, drops and half smashes into his game as well. obviously he doesn't have the height to get the same angles, but its a thought.

    Lin indeed has lots of stamina....but a stronger backhand *may* result in easier recovery after a shot, rather than a round-the-head for example. He does seem to be playing a lot of 3 setters (or as others adapt to his style, he will end up playing more 3 sets) and for big tournaments with good opponents, he needs to save energy is possible without compromising winning.

    LD has been seen to wrong foot his opponents but usually from the net by faking shots. i'd love to see some deceptive slices from the backcourt that leave opponents stranded.

    haha...alright...no one can be perfect:D just some comments
     
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    Yeah, but saying that LD is best because of the current ranking point system and TH has won the WC and OC and they are more prestigious, then aren't we again basing it on the current point ranking system?

    In my opinion, a clear comparison is how many tournaments either has won over the past year. That will show more consistency rather than who won the most important tournament.
     
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    Taufik is ahead...

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    I think Lin Dan really just lacks confidence right now. In 2004 he was really confident, and a confident LD == winning LD. Then the whole Olympic incident happened, and he doesn't seem as sure of himself as he used to be. I'm pretty sure the pressure the Chinese coaches are putting on him to win big tournaments isn't helping either.

    To be honest, I very much miss the old LD that walked 20 circles around the court after every point, took off his shirt and screamed after a good victory, and did his crazy salutes all around. I don't know if you guys remember, but I think during his Thomas Cup match against Gade he went up for a jump smash and almost tripped over himself when he landed because he just put all his strength in it knowing that it would win him the point. That's the LD that win tournaments. You just don't see him with that kind of attitude anymore.
     
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    I think he's no longer as spastic and sporadic like that anymore because he's getting older and more mature. :p

    Doing all those crazy things takes energy and energy is finite.
     
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    it may be sarcasm :D
     

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