Chiropractors vs Doctors

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  1. Eurasian =--(O)

    Eurasian =--(O) Regular Member

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    I was talking to my friends mom about seeing a chiropractor. She is one of the best pediatricians in calgary. She totally, totally was against chiropractors and told me to seek out a real doctor. Apparently Chiropractors are not even doctors! However I had already booked an appointment.

    I went to see a chiropractor monday morning about my knee, hip, and shoulder. All three injuries are from badminton. The chiropractor was very informative about thier philosophies and she showed me a couple of excercises. I am going back again tommorow. I enjoyed going and most of the 'active release therapy' seemed to help. The only thing I really was against was when she was pushing against a very tender part below my kneecap. It was very painful. She believes it is from patella femoral I had when I was younger. IMO pain means stop. Also I was wondering, doesn't it hurt everyone when someone pushes in the area below the kneecap? I thought it was just a tender area.

    The chiropractor also said that the way I walk is 'off'. My strides are not very long for my size and my left arm does not sway when I walk. She said that all of the above over time can lead to knee and hip problems.

    I am planning to at least talk to a sports doctor within the next week.
     
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    Dude, welcome to the knee pain club. Wear knee brace to keep your patellar tracking properly!!! You should see a sports medicine specialist to check out if you have over pronated or supinated feet and flat arches ... etc.

     
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    What does she mean by patella femoral? That doesn't make any sense
    Chiropracter claim that they can manipulate the bone.... which is highly unlikely and contradictory...
    My experience with chiropractor was horrible... I sense they are there to make quick money and it doesn't resolve the problem at all
    The appointment lasted less than 10 min and they click the joints of your body which doesn't do anything.. and end up paying 30bucks for that crap
    And they all say the standard phrase to make it sound convincing.. your posture is not good.. your walking is off.... u must do the recommended excercise...
    Anyway I think you to see other medical related therapy..
    Physiotherapy is ok... and sports doctor....
    Anyway tell us more about it ok?
     
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    With doctor's you probably get more consistent quality.

    Good chiropracter's are something that people swear by, but then there's the one's that get into hocus pocus and aura manipulation etc. Trust your instinct when you go. Don't accept razzle dazzle, make sure they explain the situation to your satisfaction.
     
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    Patellar Fermoral Pain Syndrome (PFPS)

     
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    There was an article on the news only today about research that showed that chiropractors and oesteopaths were not helpful and could even worsen conditions. In my experience several people have been to chiropractors and all have been told that one hip is higher etc.
     
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    The doctor/chiropractor debate has been going on for years. But then again most people assume that innoculations are "safe" because the medical community says so.


    I've been going to chiropractor for years now - he has done a world of wonder, but I went though a dozen others before I found him. He's very practical and an athlete himself, so he has a good feel for what is required. He's managed to rid me of my syaitica and get me loosened up the point I'm feeling pretty good. His sessions are along the lines of 25-30 minutes.


    ART HURTS LIKE HELL. In have the dubious disstinction of playing a repetive motion sports while I lift weights like the average bodybuilder. The muscles in my upper back knot up constantly, that is an ongoing battle, but the ART has helped to release al lot of the fiberous damage in my arms. I have to say though, it was agony. With ART and Deep Tissue, if it hurts, it's working.


    I found that massage/chiro/Art has been helping me. I'm even thinking of trying actupunture/chinese medicine based on feedback from others.

    I'll second hemants point though - you gotta find one that fits you. I've has a few of the "hocus pocus" types who simply did their thing with no conderation to what specific probelms badminton creates for the human body.
     
  8. Eurasian =--(O)

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    Had another appointment today. My knee is actually already starting to feel better but that could be just that I'm not currently training. I decided to take a week off to get my knee back. From what I have read on the web most chiropractors claim that misaligned back can almost any problem... my chiropractor has focused almost solely on my muscles. Muscle imbalances, tightness and scartissue. She has been doing all these crazy stretches on my IT band and knee. Even a little lower back, and gluts. Next session we are working on my calves and shoulder. My IT band and quads feel great after todays session.

    I have to say that so far it seems like its helping. My knee seems to be getting better. I'll post another 'status update' on Friday.
     
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    Couldn't you stretch your IT band yourself :D? But you get a (wink, wink) special chirporactor.

     
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    Hahaha! I can stretch it but I think she does a MUCH better job. Also not just IT band....
     
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    time to get a good knee brace. although once u used it it's kinda having a handicap. I wear one and now I can't play hard game without it or if not my knee start to hurt after the game.

    I shoulnd't try to wear one in the beginning. brace helps healing but if u wear it too often it actualy weaken the joint.

    I don't use it in the beginning of the badminton night now, just about like after an hour or more...trying to train the joint to get it's full strength.
     
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    Just for your information, as a doctor, I've seen people having vertebral artery dissection due to a chiropractor manipulation.
    In layman terms, patient has a massive cerebral ischemic attack and was brain dead after a few days.
    Having your neck manipulated is something.
    For your knee, that's your business.
     
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    Can i ask a stupid question?

    What has this tread got to do with badminton?

    Surely this subject should be disscussed on "Doctors Central" and not here!!!
     
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    Sports and injuries are often inevitable, so being informed helps all of us get back to top form as quickly as possible.

    I've often wrestled with which is better to go to. I know my family doctor quite well, but even tho' he is often way too busy and not specific enough to be able to understand our family's sport related injury needs. For any severe injury, he is the first person to go to, he can prescribe the necessary analysis, and referrals for more in-depth reports on the state of the body, and any recommended medication.

    But from a practical aspect, he is not necessarily the best in terms of working on the injury to get it back to peak form in a timely manner. That's where the chiropractors and physios can work their magic on the body to get it back to top shape. I've been to different physios and chiros (I am currently seeing one now for my torn hamstring), and there are varying degrees of abilities.

    Definitely like choosing a coach, racquet or other parts of the sport, finding a good competent health professional that will understand and able to repair you is a good investment in terms of research.
     
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    I had another appointment yesterday. She used her Grafton devices again which are basically stainless steel rods countoured to use on the body. She would use them to scrape out 'abrasions' on my really tight legs muscles. I can't remember exactly what she called it but it was something like fibrial marsas or osmething. Its the layer that covers all muscles in the body. I don't really let her work on my back or neck or anything. Shes basically just my shoulder and leg. N e ways the Grafton tools are pretty painful! She would use them to scrape up and down my leg over and over again. The purpose is to break up the abrasions and to get blood to flow to heal the damaged area.... I have to say its working. We haven't gotten to my shoulder yet but my knee is improving. If its not 100% better though after another week of treatments thoguh I'm going to find something else to goto.
     
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    I had chronic back pain from snowboarding and decided to goto a chiropractor. Believe it or not, she told me I had poor stance and told me whcih muscles I needed to work on. After just 2 treatments, my back pain was completly gone. After about a total of 6 treatments, I'm feeling healthier than ever. No pain anywhere whatsoever.
     
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    are you sure u seen a chiropractor not a physiotherapist?
    I am a bit confuse here... because chiropractor usually interested in joint and bone... not the muscles, the one that work on your muscles tend to be physiotherapist
     
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    I think you are misrepresenting my original post.

    The purpose of my "BC is no substitute for a doctor" thread was to encourage injured players to seek medical attention in preference to looking for a "BC diagnosis".

    I never said, however, that we should avoid discussing injuries altogether, and certainly it is wise to discuss the options available when seeking professional medical advice. I believe it was dlp who posted an apposite comment to the same effect in the aforementioned thread.

    Discussing sports injuries is entirely appropriate for these forums, provided that the discussion serves as an adjunct to, and not a replacement for, consultation with appropriate medical professionals.
     
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    Eurasian =--(O) Regular Member

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    Its definately a chiropractor, not a physiotherapist. She has a few certificates of some kind showing her name with Chiropractor at the top.

    Also IMO the general forum is for anything indirectly related to badminton. Sports injuries are, unfortunately, related. Chiropractors and doctors both can help to heal, or further, a sports related injury.

    The acute pain in my knee is getting much better. The sharpness of when contracting a certain way is not nearly as bad as it once was. She also got a chance to look at my shoulder today and active released the crap out of it. I have knots underneath the shoulder blade and near the rotator cuff. She is just working out the kinks. It hurt but at the same time feels like its working. For me its natural to find a tender area and massage it, even if it hurts... as long as there is no tearing or bleeding sensations. She can massage where I can't reach and actually has an idea of what to look for.
     

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