Playing for Money

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  1. cooler

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    Here is a quick test if someone is unsure about gambling:
    If u keep losing, YOU'RE GAMBLING :p :p :p
     
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    i'm just gonna quietly revive this thread haha. me and smashingbird once played at southarm community centre for a bet. i think i was to buy him a drink if i lost and he lost he was to buy me dinner. i lost 15-5 :p
     
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    SGVBC Irony!

    This thread is ironic because yesterday I just found out about the San Gabriel Valley Badminton Club (SGVBC) Monday and Thursday Night "Pot Luck". It's quite exciting! :D It goes something like this:

    1) Funky Doubles (Guy or Girl), single elimination, 2 out of 3, winners take all

    2) Participants put in $10 each

    3) There's a lottery to see who you get paired up with

    4) Next, to make it more equitable, determine your over/under/handicap (+/-) relative to your skill level. The organizer determines your skill level and the standard is a "B" class rating. If you are a solid "B" player, then you are "0", if you are a "C" player, you are +2 or +3, "A" player: -2 or -3 and anything inbetween. So how it works is if you have two "C" Players on one team and they are both +3, their total is +6 and they play two "B" Players with a net of "0". That means when the game starts, the "C" Players start with a 6-0 lead. Another example, which happened yesterday, Two "C" players, +3 and +2 played against one "A-" and "B+" players, -2 and -1. So effectively, the Cs start with 8-0 lead. This makes it interesting because the C Players won a very close match. :D

    The competition was good, and the match play was good. The winners yesterday were none other than U.S. Junior National Mixed Doubles Champions (U22 XD): Nicholas and Samantha Jinadasa (Nick is also the U22 MS champ, Sam U19 GD). They were a "0" handicap when they should have been a -5 or -6. Next time the organizer will know. :p

    Nick and Samantha are awesome. Nick is deceptively quick and has a strong smash. Samantha is human wall. Guys were constantly smashing at her but to no avail. She has great cross court returns and a deceptive backhand serve as well, where you can't really attack it. I didn't know who they were but after watching them play, knew they were the ones to beat even though there was some stiff competition.

    It was a great time. If you're in the area, I recommend you check it out. It's definitely fun stuff. :D
     
  4. cooler

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    be glad if your club is well organized

    'Badminton Gamblers' Hold Court In Housing Areas
    By Rosli Abidin Yahya

    Bandar Seri Begawan – Several badminton courts at national housing estates are being turned into gambling dens, some residents have alleged.

    The residents claimed that some people are hogging the badminton courts as they bet on the outcome of their badminton matches to make the contests more exciting.

    And the concerned residents want these "badminton gamblers" to stop their activities, saying that their actions were not only against the Islamic religion but also prevented other "genuine" players from getting their turn on the courts.

    The complainants alleged that the errant players became so involved in their betting that they forgot there were other people waiting for their turn on the badminton courts.

    "There should also be a booking system so that all players have a chance to play the game. Unfortunately, the present system does not allow other players like us to play the game," said the frustrated players.

    They felt that residents of housing estates should be given priority to use the badminton courts at nearby multipurpose halls.

    "At present, anyone can play at the badminton courts located at multi-purpose halls at national housing estates.

    "The residents of national housing estates should be given priority in using the courts as the multi-purpose halls are built for the benefit of residents of national housing estates," they said.

    They also suggested that the halls be contracted to local companies to operate them.

    "The players should be charged accordingly for badminton games. The halls should also accommodate other games and activities.

    "However, the companies which operate the halls must be responsible for the maintenance of the buildings," they said.

    Multi-purpose halls were built at national housing estates so that residents could use them to hold events, games and other activities. -- Courtesy of Borneo Bulletin
     
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    I suppose then cooler that betting causes a problem when people who want to have some fun are pushed aside.

    This seems very arrogant behavior. Denying others the right to have some court time and some fun.

    I never bet on games. Win or lose we buy drinks for eachother.:)
    Just who is more generous on the day, hehe.

    I like to play 'winner stays on' that way the current winner does not get rest and has trouble playing the weaker......more rested player.....it can make a big difference!
     
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    i think there are many innovative queue system a club could run as long as members agree and all stick by it. Problem is when organizers are often the culprits
     
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    I used to play for $2 a game (ie. you get $1 from each opponent), and boy did that make everyone concentrate. We just had 2 pins of each colour, and if you picked the same colour as someone else, that's your partner for the game. However, you can't keep the same partner next game.
     
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    it does not need to be money.. it can be in the form of punishment. that's what usually i get during training. losers do 100 push ups or more... so we will play at our best...but sometimes i also play for drinks with my friends..
     
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    this is a common practice to bet on anykind of competition back home. cricket fight, betta (the fighting fish) fish, roosters fight, soccer match. badminton, etc etc. even in junior high, there will be some students who act as the "bookie" espc for big european match and some of the better teams in the national league.

    it's not uncommon to have a soccer game where the players has to "buy in" to play. the result is sometime big fight espc when there is no referee, disputed calls, etc etc. or when someone play and didn't have the buy in then his team lost and he can't/won't pay. mafian style vendetta happened too when some one is targeted by a certain group for not paying or just he played really good.

    I personally have involved i all of those :eek: and have paid some consequences (numerous trip to the principle office and fights...). at the end it's only wreck friendships if it's done too seriously and your reputation in the community (all of those are common sense ppl).

    I won't recommended it for regular club play. but if it's organized "montly tournament" that would make a whole difference. hey, everyone love to be in the tournament to win something and they will play their best.
     
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    Side Bets.

    Side bets does make the game a bit more exciting to watch.
    Every point is fought hard and every action is fast and exciting.

    I think having a small organized prize money tournament is a great way to meet other advanced players and have a chance to play with them.

    Some may see it as an inexpensive way to get some training with the advanced or national players.
     
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    *whistles innocently while looking out in the distance* :p
     
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    Oh yeah, last Thursday it was going to be Don and me vs. Qua and Joseph, we get 5 points. What do you think? We have no chance, huh? :p I'd get run good, that's for sure. :D

    Anyway, it didn't happen, maybe this Thursday... :)
     
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    Good Luck. Hope you can take one game from them.
     
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    One game? I'm hoping to get 7-8 points in each game, first. :p

    I'm not greedy. :D
     
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    I play for high school, and we always play for drinks. They're like 1.25$ each, if you play double each person pay for each of the other players. Make the game more interesting. But i would never play for real money because i think it's dumb.
     
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    You say that now but wait until later in life. :p

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not a proponent of playing for money but people do it to get a more serious, better game out of their opponents...so they say. :p
     
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    Spending $1.25 now is pretty insignificant. But if you're working and earning more money playing for $10 will also probably seem insignificant.

    I know what you mean though. I'd prefer to play drinks/meal rather than a sum of meny.
     
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    wager.

    For a 2rm or for a bottle of drink, it shd be a good motivational game for working adults.

    For kids or students, push ups for 50 times for losers. Comes in early to the court to clean the court and help coaches to clean up after the game. Howz that? No pain no gain.:D
    rgds
     
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    Good options, I like those ideas. :D
     
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    Funny, there's a distinction here...

    I really don't think anyone's really against playing for money per se. I mean, when you play in tournaments, you're playing for money or prizes right?

    What i think most people here have against playing for money is the possibility of losing money, and considering that this is all gambling. Gambling bears a lot of negative stigma.

    But I'm not certain there's any real moral wrongess about playing for money-- i mean, professionals do it all the time. They spend money and time to train, and they gamble on themselves to win so they can continue.

    It's usually if we consider it 'just a game' that we think that things like gambling or earning something for our efforts kinda sullies our ideals... but in the professional echelons, it's just another day on the courts.
     

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