china tc team is strong but 'fragile'

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  1. zzz...

    zzz... Regular Member

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    Believed, China has the best chance of lifting the cup. But inside my heart, I will like to see another country gettng it.
     
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    If china wants it, LYB will get it....its unexpected to me if China is not in the finalist. Its even unexpected to me if china is not the champion. Imagine how many players LinDan, Cai/Fu, ..etc have to defeat before raising to the top in China as opposed to say....Singapore, Hong Kong, ...etc !!!!

    I strongly believe numbers do count. China badminton association may not be the best run organization compared to Denmark, but competitiveness and pool of players are the advantages that no other countries can match ......
     
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    like tc 2002... china young guns failed...

    i dun know wheter chen jin and Guo Zhendong/Xie Zhongbo will be able to bare the pressure
     
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    You're right, of course, but taufik-ist needn't have mentioned this because it's what everyone already knows. China is the overwhelming favourite to win the Thomas Cup for precisely the reasons you mention. Despite the handful of wins the other top singles players have logged against Lin, he has been winning consistently over the last few years and only chokes once in a while. The original poster is just pointing out a possible chink in the formidable armour. Perhaps "fragile" isn't the best possible term, however.
    Do you really think Indonesia will lose to Korea in group play then? That is the only way they'll meet China in the semis (unless, of course, China finishes second in their group:D , that is).
     
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    no, indonesia will prefer being group winner
     
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    i hope they cannot bare.. hehee :D
     
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    I'm not sure whether Indonesia would try to finish first or second, which one would they prefer?

    If they finish first, they meet China in semifinal
    If they finish second, they meet Malaysia in quarterfinal
     
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    i prefer indonesia meet china in semis, and meet malaysia in final :D
     
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    Yea, his experience in the last TC might help this time, esp Bao Chunlai just recovered from injury... :)
    btw, lazybuddy, are you an engineer? In what field...:p
     
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    Yea, taufik.. hehe, I hope so as well. I prefer malaysia to meet korea in QF and meet indonesia in final.. hehe :D
     
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    You're right. I was thinking finishing first would send them the Malaysia/Denmark route so I couldn't figure out why taufik-ist was predicting a semi-final against China. My mistake.
     
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    to save energy, not necessary to play off :D
     
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    Something I read from paper today

    Denmark has chance to beat China, why? Because PG and KJ has shown good performance in 21-point systen. Eriksen/Hansen's form is incredible. They'd won 3 titles this year (AE, EC, China Masters) with two of them under 21-point system. And what's more important, they beat Fu/Cai in China Masters to win the title. PG beat LD and KJ beat CH in China Master under the new system.

    If I assume Eriksen/Hansen will win against Fu/Cai, either PG or KJ get one point, then it's up to the 2nd MD to decide the tie because Kaldau's prospect to win a point is slim.

    Compared to other teams also, Denmark team member is almost same with 2004. Their TC experience is a big advantage.
     
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    yes, denmark is the best candidate, their md are strong
     
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    From The Paper I read:
    Peter Gade: Everyone says China is the favorite. But Denmark is also well-prepared. China and Denmark MS standard is close. China will face certain level of difficulties if they want beat Demark.

    He added, "don't forget, our team Denmark has another advantage at MD. "
     
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    denmark vs china = 55:45
    indo vs denmark = 50:50
    indo vs chn = 55:45
    mas vs denmark = 45 : 55
    mas vs indo = 50:50
    mas vs china = 55:45
     
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    Wow, you're really passimistic about China's chances

    chn vs indo = 45:55 ??
    chn vs mas = 45:55 ??
    chn vs den = 45:55 ??

    While I'll be supporting the other countries not to be whitewashed 5-0 (or 3-0 if it comes to that) there is a reason why Chn is seeded #1. With world #1, 5, 6 and 11 in their singles and #3 for their doubles they will be no pushovers.

    Who else can boast such impressive players in their ranks - except perhaps China themselves 2 years ago.
     
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    You're kidding, right? Perhaps you are predicting a best case scenario for the winners as opposed to a realistic one. Either that or you really don't fancy China's chances at all.
     
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    Here is my prediction:

    INA vs China = 3 - 2
    INA vs Mals = 3 - 2
    INA vs Denmark = 3 -2
    China vs Mal = 2 - 3
    China vs Den = 2- 3
    Mal vs Den = 2 - 3

    Winner: INA (horaaaaay):D
     
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    Well, all I can say is good luck to INA but I'm not convinced they can do it this time.:)
     

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