Also I think it's a good idea to let the professionals (umpire and line judges) make the decision. What LHI did was normal. I don't understand why many ppl blame him for not being a Saint.
very, but according to sportsmanship, that's not it. and if you watch football or hockey, you'd see teammates and players trying to break it up fights. and Lin Dan and Lee Hyun Il are players on the same circuit, they must at least know of each other well enough to be acquantances, and be friends enough to stop them from fighting in badminton(?) LOL right...
So, if it happens in other sports, then in nature human beings are not nice, but if it happens in badminton, then badminton players are unkind and unsporting?
What made you think LHI could "break up the fight"? The Korean coach tried to stand between LD and LM and you saw LD's reaction. Furthermore, LHI, being a junior, did the correct thing not to mess with LM, a senior's business. If LHI went "in between", the situation would escalate instead of die down.
That's not true. Usually the other side will deliberately kick the ball out so that there will be a legal break. And then the "injured" side will throw the ball back.
hey anyone can, if you at least "try". i mean what makes you think the tournament referee could, or the korean assistant coach? wouldn't Lin Dan (and he did) see them as infuriating him more? it's not about a junior vs a senior thing, they were arguing over a line call, and he made the shot. if anything, he should be trying to hold back HIS coach. but not doing anything about it is being an accessory to a crime. he saw something wrong happen, and didn't report or do anything about it. thus he helped the crime escalate or go worse. if he only just blocked lin dan before he got over to Li Mao, things might not have gotten that far. but we'll never know lol...
Lines man's call on the racket throw I wonder if the lines man called the "racket throw" as being IN as well??? To me it was clearly OUT.
why does everyone try to put words in my mouth?!?! gosh, i hope i'm not hated this much lol. if you read my last sentence, it says that human beings aren't nice people, which is why i talked about the coach probably benching the guy who helped the injured guy. i think this is miscommunication i like badminton. i enjoy playing it. if their are questionable shots in our games i will give my opponent the benefit of the doubt and award them the point. but that's just with the people i play with. it's just that i've never seen the level of peace and love in badminton as opposed to some of the other sports i have listed.
In these situations, any intervention will only escalate the already heated affairs, like Zhong Bo's interference
I think LD heard it when he went to talk to the umpire, then later he could not get any help from the umpire, he turn around and decided to throw the racket. Because LM said himself that he stood up, moved 2 steps forward, and shouted at the umpire and LD to apply pressure when LD went to the umpire about the call.
No question.. ..esp. in the new video, of course LinDan was purely acting on emotion. Whether it's a tactic or not, it definitely escalated to his outburst. After all the dust settles, he & Li Mao were essentially the ones acting on emotion. *As for the first bad call, as far as i recall, it was the net fault call on LHI which the Umpire over-ruled, in the 2nd set.
ya but...i don't think anyone would be too happy if Lin Dan walked to Li Mao and whupped his umm...*cough* right
To summarize what some people are professing: If you cannot defend your guy after he is irrevocably proved guilty of offense, discredit the other guy of being equally bad according to an arbitrary scale of morals. If there is no other guy, blame the institution, human nature(!) or society, as needed. If you can, thrown in a patronizing, "Aren't we all sinners" speech too. You guys would make good politicians.
I don't think LHI did anything wrong besides not admitting the shot went out, but no other players did that either.
The point is, to LD, LHI is "them", as well as the Korean coach. That's why their intervention will only worsen the situation -- as I clearly said, after the intervention of the Korean coach LD got more furious. The tournament referees are "neutral" and therefore they could help. In fact you can see that LD didn't turn hostile toward them even when they are escorting him away.
ya but Li Mao wasn't helping out his cause. he was up and yelling and about too. how do we know he wasn't gunna punch Lin Dan while being held up ...all i meant is that if LHI held up his own coach with the korean assistant, it'd at least show that he was trying to calm things down, and thus showing sportsmanship. by staying out, yes he probably stopped things from getting worse, but if things got worse, he'd be seen as someone that just let things happen. it's always a good precaution to not let things escalate, but the way Lin Dan was acting under his current emotions, who knows. better to hold back/protect Li Mao, than to let Lin Dan, "hopefully" not break free and kill him. that's all i meant =P
