2008 Thomas & Uber Cup Finals Team Player List

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  1. Jagdpanther

    Jagdpanther Regular Member

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    There he goes again, this time more 'subtle'

    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=+2]Tak Khawatir Kejutan[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=-1]Buat kubu Malaysia, Indonesia telah melakukan kejutan saat menentukan susunan pemain tim Thomas, khususnya di sektor ganda putra. Unsur kejutan ini disuarakan Rexy Mainaky, mantan ganda putra andalan Indonesia di era 90-an yang kini melatih Malaysia.

    Kejutan pertama adalah saat PBSI memutuskan Luluk Hadiyanto/Alvent Yulianto tak ada dalam daftar tim. Yang kedua adalah masuknya kombinasi baru Candra Wijaya/Nova Widianto sebagai ganda ketiga.

    “Keputusan mencoret Luluk/Alvent memang mengejutkan. Namun, Indonesia mengambil langkah yang bijaksana. Mereka mungkin mempertimbangkan hasil yang dicapai Nova/Candra di Kejuaraan Asia lalu,” sebut Ricky di situs BAM.

    Di Kejuaraan Asia, 15-20 April, Nova/Candra menang 22-20, 25-23 atas Luluk/Alvent di babak perempatfinal. Mereka melaju hingga ke final sebelum akhirnya kalah 16-21, 18-21 dari pasangan Korsel yang tengah meroket karena sebelumnya telah menang di All England dan Swiss Super Series, Lee Yong-dae/Jung Jae-sung.

    Saya tak terlalu khawatir dengan masuknya Nova/Candra di tim Thomas Indonesia. Di Kejuaraan Asia, mereka tak menang atas pasangan Malaysia karena tak ada kesempatan untuk berhadapan,” lanjut mantan pasangan Ricky Subagdja ini.

    "I'm not too worried with Candra/Nova being included in Indonesia TC team. In the Asian Championships, they didn't win over Malaysian pairs because there wasn't any chance for them to have a match," former Ricky Subagdja's partner continues his statement.

    (Since he's MAS coach, it's unlikely that he'll say something like, "If MAS pairs ever meet Candra/Nova, then it's all over for us." However, I'm still a little disappointed by his way of siding with MAS. I mean, he could give another statement like, "This new scratch pair is very strong, but I think our pairs still have an edge against them.")


    Keberhasilan pasangan senior itu mencapai final di Kejuaraan Asia memang belum memperlihatkan kualitas mereka yang sesungguhnya. Sebagai pemain senior, baik Candra maupun Nova memang sudah banyak mengoleksi berbagai gelar.

    “Tapi, mereka baru bergabung. Ujian akan datang saat bertanding dan dalam keadaan kritis penuh tekanan. Keadaan itu biasanya bisa dilewati oleh pasangan yang sudah lama bermain bersama,” ujar Sigit Budiarto, mantan pasangan Candra saat meraih gelar juara dunia 1997.

    Rexy menilai Indonesia tetap memiliki peluang yang sama dengan tim lain, meski baru melepas formasi yang mengejutkan.

    Indonesia hanya diuntung-kan oleh status tuan rumah. Peluang tetap sama. Malaysia punya tiga ganda yang bisa saling mengalahkan. Mereka juga punya pengalaman menghadapi pemain top lainnya. Saya punya banyak pilihan untuk memainkan mereka,” ucap Rexy.

    "Indonesia's only advantage is that they'll be playing on their homeground (Oh really?:p Anyway, he will never say anything like, "OMG! We'll pe playing in INA! MAS is doomed!" Ah, GBK is not 'angker' like Old Trafford, Anfield, or Nou Camp anyway). All teams share equal chances. Malaysia has three pairs capable to beat each others (like we don't?;)). They have the experience of facing many top pairs as well. I have many choices to field them," said Rexy.

    Malaysia bakal menurunkan Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah, Koo Kien Kieat/Tan Boon Heong, dan M. Fairuzizuan/M. Zakry. Di tunggal, mereka memiliki Lee Choong Wei, Wong Choong Han, Hafiz Hashim, dan Mohd Arif. Pada babak penyisihan grup, Malaysia akan berada di Grup B bersama Korsel dan Inggris.

    (taken from bolanews.com, only 2 paragraphs translated by me, with my poor English of course.)

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  2. vching

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    what do you want Rexy to say? Oh the Indonesian team are so good, they will kick our ass any day. We are sure to lose to them.

    Use your head to figure that out. Rexy is being a coach. Thats what coaches do. He is a coach for Malaysia, not Indonesia. And coaches are supposed to say that to give confidence to their charges.

    What sort of a coach would say otherwise? Stop taking this so personal!
     
  3. eaglehelang

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    The above statements from Rexy already came out in Msian press.
    I think Jagdpanther, you misunderstood the meaning -look at the one that came out in Berita Harian, 25 April (exceprts only) :


    “Saya tidak anggap Fairuzizuan (Tazari) dan (Mohd) Zakry (Latif) sebagai penumpang ke Jakarta. Mereka akan juga memainkan tugas penting nanti kerana kita punya tiga beregu yang tahapnya tidak jauh berbeza,” katanya ketika ditemui selepas sesi latihan, pagi semalam.


    Selain Fairuzizuan-Zakry, cabaran memungut mata dalam acara beregu bakal dipikul kombinasi Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah selaku beregu utama selain gandingan Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong di posisi kedua.


    “Situasinya seperti kem Indonesia ketika menjuarai Piala Thomas 2000. Kami punya tiga beregu mantap dengan semuanya diyakini punya peluang baik untuk menyumbang mata.


    “Itulah keyakinan yang perlu ada di kalangan pemain. Saya percaya dengan kemampuan ketiga-tiga beregu negara itu mampu memberikan mata apabila diberi kepercayaan untuk beraksi nanti,” katanya.

    Malah kerana itu juga, Rexy tidak mahu diganggu bimbang apabila mendengar perkhabaran betapa Indonesia mungkin ‘bermain psikologi’ apabila menggugurkan beregu kedua, Luluk Hadiyanto-Alvent Yulianto daripada skuad Piala Thomas mereka.


    Tuan rumah sebaliknya menamakan gandingan ‘bidan terjun’, Candra Wijaya-Nova Widianto – yang muncul naib juara Kejohanan Badminton Asia (ABC) minggu lalu – untuk bersama-sama juara dunia, Markis Kido-Hendra Setiawan serta Hendra Gunawan-Joko Riyadi.

    “Kita ambil perhatian, tetapi saya tidak mahu rasa terlalu bimbang. Memang saya terkejut dengan keputusan menggugurkan Luluk-Alvent, tetapi mungkin itu percaturan dan perang psikologi mereka.

    “Apa yang pasti, saya percaya beregu negara punya kemampuan untuk menghasilkan kemenangan menentang sama ada Candra-Nova ataupun Hendra-Joko. Kita harus bersikap positif dan tidak terlalu negatif untuk terlalu bimbang dengan mereka,” katanya.


    If you read the Berita Harian statement, you can see the main points are the same, just depends how the media slant it : Rexy does NOT want to be too worried abt Indonesia's line-up, including Chandra/Nova combo. That's Msia 3 MD pairs are also solid.
    Rexy has to be seen to support Msia - stimes maybe he try too hard - cos (as I have repeated bf) some 'parties' think Rexy being foreign coach is not 100% loyal to Msia.
    Plus this time it's being held in his home country Indonesia.

    Means : Msia still have chance, also have 3 good MD pairs, it's not like it's a goner if Msia play Indonesia. It is true in terms of MD, Msia & Indonesia MD, in terms of head to head are quite even.

    The above from bola news seems to have come from 2 separate interviews in Msia press. I find it odd that Indonesia media make it sound Rexy so against Indonesia when Msia press put it more neutral - like Rexy trying to reassure everyone, which is what is expected of him.
     
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  4. Jagdpanther

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    Have you read the italicized sentences more carefully, sire? If you have, them you'll figure out my opinion. :)
    I'm sure I didn't write anything showing my anger toward his statement, rite?

    And I'm so sorry for being, well, childish.
    At some point I thought he gave that statement for 3 reasons:
    1. He tries his best to encourage his players.
    2. He's performing some psycho-war or something like that.
    3. He's desperate to show MAS media that he's 100% siding with MAS.

    After reading that Berita Harian article and your opinion, I will say that his true reasons are combination of no.1 and 3.
    Please correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  5. george@chongwei

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    this thread is to talk about thr TC/UC team player list, not for argueing against each other:)
    lets have peace:):D
     
  6. rinewy

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    i learned rasa sayang since i'm in primary skul...everybody does
    i learned about indonesia befor any other country in form3 histories...everybody knoes parameswara
    i'm malaysian, i watch indonesian series, i love Ada Apa Dengan Cinta,
    well..i love taufik seriously, i cheer for him in Putra Stadium....EVERYBODY DOES
    theres indonesion every km i walk on, but they r just normal people in my eyes....
    nobody anti-indonesion here....after all
    so...seriously...
    what it has to do with badminton...ha ha...

    i cant wait for thomas cup hehe.... wanna c Fik-Fik in action ma...
     
  7. d65up2

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    I'd rather he be like the INA coaches just keep quiet...afterall he is born in INA so he should just stay silent......
     
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    Yap u can use rasa sayang and continue to use it mate...but I am just saying ya....it belongs to Indonesia....its an Indonesian folk song...it is originated in Ambon........seriously so it belongs to Indonesia not Malaysia...anyway we are droping the topic man...
     
  9. Erwin Kyoto

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    sorry..Out of Topic

    ups..sorry out of Badminton...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    If u love watching the Indonesian series...watch this movie till the end/part 14 (sorry no english version):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipTh6ThA5eo

    hope it will be a good love movie for you behind Ada Apa Dengan Cinta..hehehe:D...the girl in this movie also called as `CINTA`....enjoy it:cool:
     
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  10. rinewy

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    thanks Erwin...that guy is cute tho hehehe
    sori guys..offf topic...back to discussion=P no offence :D
     
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  11. Armor_tec_14

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    Your Comments are beginning to annoy me. Im Scottish But Your Constantly Complaining about Rexy Or Malaysia. Chill Out !
     

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