2011 French Open SS: Semi-Finals Sat 29-October

Justin L said:
You just watched the 3rd game without realising he almost lost to Chen Long the 1st one and the 2nd, which could have been 2-0 for CL. In fact,if you'd watched the previous two matches carefully,you would have thought CL played better then than today - just my two-cents worth of opinion,don't take it too seriously,to each his own.
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In the tournament, it is the end result that count not the luck ! If you talk about the luck, then we can said LCW should won the worldchampionship against Lin Dan earlier ! CL lost the 1st game is not because LCW has the luck, it is because LCW dare to take risk to smash to win it ! This is exactly the same situation in the 3rd game of WC, when LCW is leading towards the end of the game, Lin Dan is brave enough to smash and win the game and WC ! LCW could has learned from his earlier mistake in WC this time ! :)
 
Pakito said:
A hefty tall and big size player like CL, even slightly larger than BCL, takes an injury toll easier than a petite and muscular LCW. So kudos to CL if he is as fit as LCW when turning 29yrs old in future.
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Agree with you ! tall and big sized player, once injured , very hard to recover in full ! just like BCL or another Denmark player O'g !
 
PrimeShuttler said:
CL seemed a bit off-colour today, whilst LCW was more accurate overall. LCW in JO final was really quite concerning, though the 2nd game in that match he seemed to pick up.
I felt that LCW also tried a few variations/deceptions in his game today to counter CL's speed. This is what LCW will need to do consistently from now on whenever he meets CL. LCW is a pretty speedy guy himself, but he doesn't seem to use it often enough. And I've never understood why when he dives onto the ground on court to retrieve a shot, he tends to stay on the ground an extra few seconds whilst watching where the shuttle goes.
Here's hoping that LCW will continue to train hard, sit down with the coaches to watch videos of CL/LD and continue to counter those guys.
In LCW we trust. :)
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The real different for today game is LCW took the shuttle earlier so that CL does not have the time to plan his counter attack !
 
madbad said:
Having watched part of the LCW v CL match and some of the highlights interspersed during the breaks, I see a pattern emerging on where MAS coaches think CL's weakness is. LCW went to that shot a lot and even though it wasn't successful all the time kept persisting and did win quite a few points as a result.

I know I know, giving MAS coaches credit is out of fashion these days but LCW did have game plan and played to it. Also a few lucky net cords towards the end did no harm. As they say, when you work hard, you get the luck.
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I think it is not the MAS coaches alone ! Darren Liew game against CL in R2 also contributed ! Darren Liew took the shuttle earlier has caught CL off guard in few occasions in R2 should has contributed to LCW game strategy today !
 
Totally agreed with u!
forest said:
In the tournament, it is the end result that count not the luck ! If you talk about the luck, then we can said LCW should won the worldchampionship against Lin Dan earlier ! CL lost the 1st game is not because LCW has the luck, it is because LCW dare to take risk to smash to win it ! This is exactly the same situation in the 3rd game of WC, when LCW is leading towards the end of the game, Lin Dan is brave enough to smash and win the game and WC ! LCW could has learned from his earlier mistake in WC this time ! :)
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Ton-Min-Bad said:
Wow, Chen Long felt so much superior to LCW that he lost in the end.
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That pretty much sums it up.

CL was passive as LCW did in previous matches. Instead of going for it, CL just waited for LCW to make mistakes.

To LCW's credit, he kept attacking despite of the errors. Being a great player that he is, he ended up with more winners than errors and won the match.
 
forest said:
I think it is not the MAS coaches alone ! Darren Liew game against CL in R2 also contributed ! Darren Liew took the shuttle earlier has caught CL off guard in few occasions in R2 should has contributed to LCW game strategy today !
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So now, LCW also has assist,haha. Definitely cannot be MAS coaches idea.
 
Justin L said:
A relieved,happy and relaxed Chong wei will tear Tago to shreds tomorrow. I'm more keen on the New Princess vs New Queen match.
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Tago s no chicken. He s stretched LCW to 3 games in JO and IO. Who else took a game off LCW in the last two years?
 
Justin L said:
That's because CW felt relieved more than elation - he could have lost the match in two sets.
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Did you see LCW dump his racket after the win? He s never done that. It s not relief, not elation, just sheer satisfaction at putting the walkover-lucky upstart in his place. By the way, what I don t understand is how come CL could not defeat LCW in G3? CL had a rest day and 7 years younger so should have the advantage in stamina. What happened to CL s mental strength? Or stamina advantage counts only at the Finals stage, SF is one match too early? How come CL couldn t close out G1, with 3 game points? No luck or lack of mental strength? Isn t evaporating CL s 3 game points proof of LCW s mental toughness? Or was it sheer luck that CL happened to be mentally weak at closing stage?
 
pjswift said:
Did you see LCW dump his racket after the win? He s never done that. It s not relief, not elation, just sheer satisfaction at putting the walkover-lucky upstart in his place. By the way, what I don t understand is how come CL could not defeat LCW in G3? CL had a rest day and 7 years younger so should have the advantage in stamina. What happened to CL s mental strength? Or stamina advantage counts only at the Finals stage, SF is one match too early? How come CL couldn t close out G1, with 3 game points? No luck or lack of mental strength? Isn t evaporating CL s 3 game points proof of LCW s mental toughness? Or was it sheer luck that CL happened to be mentally weak at closing stage?
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The reason is simple LCW has very good stamina and a more energy saving movement and style on court. Also I think you are grossly overestimating the value of 51 hours rest compared to 20h after 30 minutes of excersize.
 
dassad said:
i have read all the thread but still didnt understand what happened to LD
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Well, LD did not expect Tago to give him a hard time. Didn t Tago have a run of points and how dare he against SuperDan; this kind of opponent is not easy. G2 18-15 is still anyone s game,no sure win for LD. If it were to go to rubber, is that the best way to meet LCW in Final? The key factor could be how the French crowd treated him. Weren't they behind Tago? What if the French crowd rooted for LCW against him? If this were in China, LD would be ready for LCW. But for him to face LCW with a non-MAS crowd backing is a 99% loss outcome. Plus he wants to teach the French crowd a lesson for not showing him respect.Kudos to FO organizers for having the intelligence to schedule LD s match before LCW s.
 
twobeer said:
The reason is simple LCW has very good stamina and a more energy saving movement and style on court. Also I think you are grossly overestimating the value of 51 hours rest compared to 20h after 30 minutes of excersize.
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LCW did not have very good stamina and a more energy saving movement and style on court in JO and FO?
 
pjswift said:
Well, LD did not expect Tago to give him a hard time. Didn t Tago have a run of points and how dare he against SuperDan; this kind of opponent is not easy. G2 18-15 is still anyone s game,no sure win for LD. If it were to go to rubber, is that the best way to meet LCW in Final? The key factor could be how the French crowd treated him. Weren't they behind Tago? What if the French crowd rooted for LCW against him? If this were in China, LD would be ready for LCW. But for him to face LCW with a non-MAS crowd backing is a 99% loss outcome. Plus he wants to teach the French crowd a lesson for not showing him respect.Kudos to FO organizers for having the intelligence to schedule LD s match before LCW s.
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That is one guess.. But we could just as well guess the following:

LD was crushing Tago leading 18-9.. Then his nail started hurting so he tried to win without moving as his foot hurt.. Tago was allowed to catch up But LD was able to win even though he took it easy with the pain in the foot.

Second set he played at 40% feeling how the toe injury was doing.. The pain didnt stop, but he realized that there was no way he could loose to Tago even with taking it easy.. And playing a third with foot pain was not appealing..

Thinking about how much he would be booed and critizied if he had to withdraw on sunday (rmembering the reaction in Singapore when he was injured) due to the toe pain.. He felt that the most rational thing was to retire and not deprive the fans and ticket buyers of a final match tomorrow, and also not deprive Tago his chance just to have to throw it away due to the injury.. So he decided to retier and give up the game due to the injury...

That is another guess.. We can speculate alll we want.. But we will probably never know for sure..
 
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lcleing said:
Lolz, I have no idea how you won 2 odd bets in a row. You are like the luckiest guy ever:cool:!

Canada should have sent you to play in the Olympics instead :P. Just kidding ^^:p.
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cobalt replies, while polishing nails and looking suitably modest:
"Oh it was nothing, really! Just a moment of inspiration that comes now and then, about 5 times a day, say..."

Actually, I think KT read my post on his thread. And just when they all thought he was gone, he stood up from the dead, and as the bullets came he put out his hand and said, "No." And LD collapsed in a heap. And so, here is born the legend of Kenichi, "The One." Remember, you heard it here first, from cobalt.
 
twobeer said:
That is one guess.. But we could just as well guess the following:

LD was crushing Tago leading 18-9.. Then his nail started hurting so he tried to win without moving as his foot hurt.. Tago was allowed to catch up But LD was able to win even though he took it easy with the pain in the foot.

Second set he played at 40% feeling how the toe injury was doing.. The pain didnt stop, but he realized that there was no way he could loose to Tago even with taking it easy.. And playing a third with foot pain was not appealing..

Thinking about how much he would be booed and critizied if he had to withdraw on sunday (rmembering the reaction in Singapore when he was injured) due to the toe pain.. He felt that the most rational thing was to retire and not deprive the fans and ticket buyers of a final match tomorrow, and also not deprive Tago his chance just to have to throw it away due to the injury.. So he decided to retier and give up the game due to the injury...

That is another guess.. We can speculate alll we want.. But we will probably never know for sure..
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This one comes closer to one's sober mind :D
 
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