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2019. YONEX ECLIPSION Z and ECLIPSION X

Discussion in 'Clothing & Footwear' started by wuldup, Jul 16, 2018.

  1. Scott Kam

    Scott Kam Regular Member

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    I wish Yonex could have kept producing 2013 SHB-65x / SHB-87 ;)
     
  2. decoy

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    Re: rubber layer

    I think some of the first shoes they did this on was the SHB01 and 02. From my experience the rubber lasts a lot longer than the leather does. That spot on the inside toe of your non racquet foot gets worn pretty fast with leather. But with rubber it tends to not wear anywhere near as quickly. So I assume that's the reason for it.

    I didn't notice any discomfort from the rubber.

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  3. jayaloha

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    @decoy
    Thank you. But the INSIDE of the shoe isn't made from rubber also is it?
     
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    decoy Regular Member

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    Not in those ones. It's just the regular felt or nylon or whatever it is.

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  5. esppy

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    So many things wrong with your situation. Long essay aside, let me do the bullet style:

    -The rubber is used purely on the outside. Inside is still the same old same old. You are thinking rubber boots. No.
    These rubber upper mesh have a breathable cloth/whatever is the normal on the inner. Same for the Aerus.

    -Rubber top/side helps a crapton if you lunge correctly, ensuring the longevity of the shoe. My SHB01 lasted 1.5 years, my 03MD is on it's 18th month as we speak and going strong without repair at all.

    -Stiffness depends on the thickness. Not the material. Case in point: 10cm leather vs 5mm rubber. Go figure.

    - The leather isn't real leather. It's PU leather.

    -Yonex updates/changes shoes design/series every 2 years. FYI.

    -It's THEIR. Not there. I can understand, English may not be your best and first language. And if you're wondering, not my first too.

    -If 65Z sucked for you at the areas you complained, try the 65ZW aka 65Z Wide. You sound like you have wide feet. If 4E doesn't cut it then.... tough.

    -You hate the CFZ based on the tongue and lacing pattern, have you actually seen how it works in actual practice? Seems like you didn't. Just lace up right and walk about, bend that foot a bit.


    Alternatively, since you hate on the Stability and Comfort series, and claim the All-Around 65 is fucked up, try Aerus3 for speed. Who knows, you may like it. If not, next brand please!


    @Scott Kam your constant love/declaration about the 87/65X is really making me dig deep. Doing research now and on the verge of getting a 65/65EX to try soon since you never seem to be able to move on and SHB65/SHB65EX (NON-Z, previous one before the Z) is the exact same bottom and top sole design and the rake angle is the same.

    Only 65Z changed the bottom sole. So I'm probably gonna try 65 series after my 03/02 dies.
     
  6. Scott Kam

    Scott Kam Regular Member

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    Esppy,
    The shoes I tried after 2013 Yonex Shb-65X and my personal comments (all with SHB-65X as benchmark) are as follows:
    1. 2016(?) SHB-65 : a bit heavier
    2. Comfort Tour (3E) : heavier and stiffer (both upper and heel)
    3. 2017 SHB-65Z (JP) : stiffer heel cushioning and forefoot upper (toes get a bit tingled when bent)
    4. Comfort Z (3E) : heavier and stiffer heel cushioning
    5. Lining Ranger : mid-foot not securely locked/wrapped and heavier
    6. Mizuno Wave Fang Zero : mid-foot not securely locked/wrapped
     
  7. lurker

    lurker Regular Member

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    have u tried changing insole?
    makes a big difference to me with spenco total max
     
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  8. jayaloha

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    @ Esppy Yes you are right, it is "their", not "there". Sorry about that.

    I did try the Aerus 3 in a store and they were, in fact, REALLY comfy, I just think that the cushioning might be less, and I do need good cushioning for my older knees.
     
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  9. Junye

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    Yahhh shoes are here[​IMG]

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