2024 Paris Olympic qualification

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  1. LD rules!

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    Indonesian “fans” yet again showing how classless they are on Labar/Corbel’s social media accounts. They don’t seem to understand or want to understand the situation, just desperate to abuse the pair for something that is entirely BWF’s doing.
     
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    it's about time someone made bwf pay for their dictatorial and incompetent ways.
     
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    Wouldnt it make more sense if Labar and Corvee replaced Popov bros instead of both pairs can play?
     
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    No. The Popov’s in this situation are not at fault. According to the correct points list, they were the ones that qualified for Paris over Labar/Corvee. The issue here is that BWF corrected the points after the conclusion of the qualification. This meant that no one was able to improve their position when if they had all the facts available, they could’ve entered more events to try and get more points. Had they changed it half way through or even with three months to go, I doubt CAS would’ve ruled in their favour. This is a pretty strong ruling and CAS would not have sided with players over a federation without a compelling reason to do so. Throwing out another pair who have qualified on merit just to add space for this pair would be ignorant or “not fair” as Indonesian’s seem to constantly put it.
     
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    yeh mainly because bwf's statements are to say the least very scarce on the matter and basically you have to deduct the real reasons behind the approval for labar/corvee entry. When indonesians feel that fikri/maulana, narrowly missing 8th ranking spot, deserve to be at the olympics much more.
     
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    even if they join, very slim chance to get medal. they just want to participate Olympic :)
     
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    MD group D is group of hell with Astrup/Rasmuss, Liu/Ou, Lee/Wang, Hoki/Koba (and USA pair)
     
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    Men's Doubles

    Group A

    Liang Wei Kang/Wang Chang
    Ben Lane /Sean Vendy
    DONG Adam/Nyl Yakura
    Aaron Chia/Soh Wooi Yik

    Group B

    Kang Ming Hyuk/Seo Seung Jae
    Christo Popov/Tomo Junior Popov
    Supak Jomkoh/Kittirupong Kedren
    Ondtej Kaal/Adam Mendrek

    Group C

    Satwik Sairaj Rankireddy/Chirag Shetty
    Lucas Corvee/Ronan Labar
    Fajar Alfian/Muhammad Rian Ardianto
    Mark Lamfuss/Marvin Seidel

    Group D

    Kim Astrupp/Anders Skarrup Rasmussen
    Liu Yu Chen/Ou xuan yi
    Lee Yang /Wang chilin
    Takuro Hoki/Yugo Kobayashi
    Vinson Chu/Joshua Yuan
     
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    Group B MD looks easy
    how about the matches for 5 pairs in Group D?
     
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    Group D- Group of Death. It’s sad considering the quality of players which have to bow out early thanks to “random draw”. As the International Authorities say, Olympics is to give everyone a Fair Chance to prosper. I believe this is Negative Discrimination going on here. What’s the use of getting 2nd seed if I am not able to have a better draw ? Considering the scenario, they should have given 4th seed in table of 5 pairs. What a draw, just compare Group D and Group B.
     
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    Group A- Chinese WR1, WR5 ,WR 18, WR32

    Group B- Koreans WR4, WR 24, WR39, WR48

    Group C- Indians WR3, Indonesia WR 6, WR31, WR46

    Group D (Death): Danish WR2, WR7, WR9, WR11, WR47

    Pathetic draw.
     
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    Easy path to a medal for Group B's Koreans imo.
     
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    3 seeded pairs got easy group and should progress except Astrup/Ramussen who have the defending champion and 2 former World Champion? They must be fuming.
     
  14. LD rules!

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    I actually think that although they might not see it this way, the Danish will benefit from having to be all out from the start as opposed to building into it. It suits them better than other pairs.
     
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    Yup, it they are a diesel locomotive. They will have to play 3 tough games where as the other 3 seeded pairs only play 1 tough game and can take it easy on the other 2.
     
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    I agree with you on almost all points. However, the situation at the European Championships was a little bit different to what you describe. According to the incorrect point calculation from a tournament over a year (!!) ago, the Popovs should have progressed two rounds at the European Championships than Labar and Corvée. However, according to the correct point calculation, one round was enough. In the first round, Labar and Corvée suffered a surprise defeat and the Popovs won their first round match very easily but were then also surprisingly eliminated in the second round. If they had won this round as well, they would have qualified for the Olympics according to both the incorrect and the correct calculation and we would not have had this unprofessional farce. BTW - Yes, it was a very serious mistake by BWF, but isn't it also the job of the member associations (or even the players?) to check that the ranking tables are correct?
     
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    What you say is correct, if the Popov's won two rounds then this whole thing would be unnecessary. With this being said, it definitely is not the responsibility of the players or federation to make sure that the points are correct when this is a professional sport overseen by a governing body. I think the real issue here is that the points that were in question related to a team event which means you get a % of your total points from the previous 12 month period. I would argue that this system of awarding points (and especially them counting towards Olympic/World qualification) should be reviewed, as these points are not always fairly awarded. An example: Not all teams qualify for these events OR not all players who are aiming to qualify for an event are picked for team stuff. Therefore those that do qualify receive an advantage over others which doesn't seem quite like a level playing field. A topic for a different thread perhaps.
     
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    this will never change as long as bwf continues to give the federations the ownership of the athletes individual competition rights.
     
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