A Year Later: Let's vote on the New/Old Scoring System again.

Discussion in 'Rules / Tournament Regulation / Officiating' started by kwun, Jan 12, 2007.

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New or Old Scoring System?

  1. Old - Service based 3x15 scoring system

    1 vote(s)
    33.3%
  2. New - Rally based 3x21 scoring system

    2 vote(s)
    66.7%
  1. chris-ccc

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    You will never, never know until you get to experience it for a longer period of time

    Hi westwood_13,

    I suppose that you will never, never know until you get to experience it for a longer period of time. :):):)

    Cheers... chris@ccc
     
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    badminton was special when we used the 3x15 system, also the matches weren't too long.
     
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    Every rally is special when we use the NSS

    Hi Xaviman,

    You are correct to say "badminton was special when we used the 3x15 system".

    But now, some are saying "every rally is special when we use the NSS".

    Yes... in a way, under the NSS, it is more stressful and nerve-wracking. :):):)

    I still think the NSS is for the more competitive players, while the OSS is better for the recreational/relaxed players.

    Cheers... chris@ccc
     
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    Not even if you chant that a hundred more times! :)

    Vehemently disagree. NSS is best suited for beginners, for 2-on-1 drills, and possibly to save time during singles tournament matches, but for nothing else.
     
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    I dont agree with the point that it is best suited for beginners. Most racquet sports use a rally point system instead of a service point system, and that doesn't mean tennis players are beginners.

    I still believe that it will probably change back once badminton becomes more popular. For now, maybe the best bet is 21 point system, best of 5. I recall reading somewhere of Peter Gade saying 9x5 service point system was good... can someone confirm this?
     
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    Ah, I didn't mean to say that whoever uses the rally system is a beginner, only that it is well suited for beginners. If I had my druthers, even the beginners would be using 3x15. However, it is psychologically less intimidating for beginners to play rally21, because even when they lose badly, it isn't reflected in the score. That is, what could be 9-0 in the old system may end up looking like 21-11 in the new. Far more respectable, and encouraging. Also, I think that for beginners it is a good idea to keep track of the mistakes they make, and the rally system keeps that out in the open.
     
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    I'd say serve-scoring is for beginners...because their frequent faults the don't get a point against them every time...

    I personally feel the nss paces up the game, and makes it better all around. I strongly feel msot 'opponents' just don't give it enough time,,,
     
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    vlkbad, yeah, I guess I misunderstood you. Now I understand what you meant. :)

    In another perspective, it's good for beginners in that it might be easier to understand how the scoring system works. Beginners might not understand that you need the service to score, and in doubles with second service and single service for the first serve in doubles could sound rather confusing for them too i guess.
     
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    I voted for NSS 21x3 :) After playing a year of it, I got used to it and I think it is actually quite good ;) Although I lost lots of points from serving out :p :eek:
     
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    I don't think there's really a huge difference between the scoring systems except for the one minor detail of having to play super tightly and watching those serves constantly..
     
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    so far the NSS gained some acceptance over the course of the year. but even so, we seem to be converging at 60% OSS vs 40% NSS.
     
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    Hmmm, true but should we wait...

    ...'til the total number of votes/voters, in the current poll, tally up & match the previous poll??..Cos i remember the last poll had like over 700+ votes in comparison to this one...Who knows, the percentage numbers could be similar as the previous poll....or could be much closer?!?!..:confused: :p:);)
     
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    Those who have mastered the OSS don't enjoy the NSS

    Hi kwun and ctjcad,

    Both of your postings have given me cause for checking the polling results, as at today 19-Feb-2007.

    terry started the poll from 21-Sep-2005.
    It ran for 72 weeks and had 721 votes (10 votes per week).
    Results: 20% for NSS, 80% for OSS.

    kwun started the poll from 13-Jan-2007.
    It has only run for 5 weeks and had 172 votes (35 votes per week).
    Results: 40% for NSS, 60% for OSS.

    I don't think that the percentage numbers of the current poll could be similar to the previous poll. There is a definite swing towards the NSS.

    But for us, who love Badminton, and who are not so worried about winning or losing, it still goes back to the fact that we love Badminton no matter which Scoring System we use.

    I still think that it is only those who have mastered playing the OSS (tactically), that they are reluctant to change from the OSS to the NSS.

    Let us just wait and see. :):):)

    Cheers... chris@ccc
     
  14. adrian.sutikna

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    old scoring...
    new scoring is a very bad idea...
    old scoring gives more time to think then react..
    new scoring doesn't give time for anything at all
     
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    Which means, either you adapt at the game quickly or lose. No reason to blame the rules for bad judgement.
     
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    I have a question, So far, there are only two rules right?
    rally scoring and serve scoring still in effect correct?
    I get confused because some people play weirdly.
    Yeah.
     
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    Rally scoring is now the official format used in tournaments. It is now part of the official rules.

    But then, no one can stop us from using the old system (serve scoring) :)
     
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    Please do note that both 3x21 and 3X15 are official formats. Alas, most tournament organisers choose to use 3X21.
     
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    But in the current badminton rule book, they make no mention of the 3x15 scoring system anymore. Doesn't that make it a former offical format?
     
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    I've heard that too, but I haven't been able to find any proof. Could you point me to some official webpage or document or something that says that? Thanks.
     

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