Adidas Badminton racquets 2018

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  1. Dave1011

    Dave1011 Regular Member

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    I should be trying the demo F3 and P3 on Sunday so will let you know how they perform.

    I had the F2 which was great for the price, I preferred it over the F5 but i marginally prefer the feel of the Kalkul A3/A5 over the Ubers.
     
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    F2 over F5? Why is that? A5 is my current main, but I wanted to try something different. My wife using my F5 atm.

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    The F2 is stiffer which I prefer coming from JS10, BS LHI etc. The F2 is supposed to be more head heavy according to the chart but i felt the head far more in the F5.
    There was a slight flex to the F5 which i think added to the head heavier feel.
    The F3 is the most stiff and marginally the most head heavy according to the chart so I'm interested to see how it compares.
     
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    The A3 and A5 I plan to be my main rackets moving forward.
    The A5 is so fast and direct, the only racket I have found with a similar feel is the JS10 4u. The A3 is similar to the A5 but with more weight for when I need more power.
     
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    Which chart are you referring to? Tried googling for one and can't find anything.
    Interesting observations. I guess you can't change a racket on specs alone.



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    So even though A3 is supposedly more even balance and stiffer, you're getting more power due to the weight. Sounds like I should really complement my A5s with A3s

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    This thread contains more information about the current Adidas Badminton rackets than any place Google can find. Try to prove me wrong. ;)
     
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    Yeah I've read it all (but not saying I remember it all).
    EDIT - think i know what my problem is. Tapatalk doesn't display a lot of the images :(

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    Here's the only chart I have seen so far

    PSX_20191106_103603.jpg
     
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    Yeah the A3 feels very similar to A5 but with the extra overall weight to add beef to smashes.
     
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    Pretty much exactly. I weight four at 2.1g, that makes at least 1g for a pair including the scale's max error (have to look it up, if it's 0.05 g or 0.1 g, but it doesn't make that big of a difference).
    That one was more difficult without using a lab scale, but it seems to be around 0.3 g. Not sure how much weight is lost after cutting them to the correct length.
    I totally missed that, sorry. I have no idea about that, I only have the RRP for Europe [€] and know that most shops will sell it roughy 10% below that.
     
  12. Dave1011

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    After multiple cancelled or rescheduled sessions I finally got around to testing the last few of the Adidas rackets I was loaned by Specialist Sports.

    I had some issues with my scales so I ordered some new scales for measuring the specs.

    All the rackets have the original grip, plastic wrap and pros pro g tacky overgrip except the F5 which didn't have plastic wrap.

    I will apologise because my comparisons are mostly related to Victor rackets.
    I have used Victors predominantly for 11/12 years so I relate to them far more than the other rackets I have had from other manufacturers.

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    Spieler A09.1 factory strung

    Balance/flex
    oooxooo oooxooo

    Weight/Head Weight

    95.8/40.4g

    I was not expecting much from this racket but it surprised me, I wish I had restrung it because even with the factory string it played well.
    The flex was more than I usually like but it didn't put me off too much.
    The sword frame and slight flex was similar to Apacs Virtuoso performance.
    Great value for money.

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    Spieler F09.1 SL factory strung

    Balance/flex
    ooooxoo oooxooo

    Weight/Head Weight
    81.3/36.1g

    This racket is outside my comfort zone, far too light for my preference.
    I used the racket briefly, it's very lightweight for anyone looking for a 6u racket.
    Again it's very well made for such a low RRP.
    A great alternative to Apacs Featherweight or Victor Lightfighter ranges.

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    Wucht P8 E66 string

    Balance/flex
    oooooox oooooox

    Weight/Head Weight
    95.9/42.6g

    The P8 is unbelievably stable, coming from Victor BS/JS/AS rackets it was slower than my favoured rackets.
    My timing was completely off but when I did connect with a drive or smash the power was insane.
    The P8 was very reminiscent of TK9900 with its extreme head heaviness and stiffness.
    A great racket for anyone looking for maximum power and stability.

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    Wucht P7 E68 string

    Balance/flex
    oooooxo ooooxoo

    Weight/Head Weight
    96.2/42.4g

    The P7 was more manageable for me compared to the P8 despite not a huge difference in weight.
    The P7 again had huge power potential but was a little better for an all round game.
    Again it reminded me of a TK, not as extreme as the P8 for a power player wanting a little better defence and net shots.

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    Wucht P3 P68 string

    Balance/flex
    oooxooo oooxooo

    Weight/Head Weight
    96.9/40.9g

    I bought the P68 red string to add to this racket, it looked amazing and performed well too.
    A great all rounder, similar to the A09.1 but with a little more of a refined feel to it.
    I would love more time with this racket, I think it's one of those rackets that takes time to get the best out of it.
    This racket would appeal to most players, good power potential but with a thinner frame than the P8/P7 it's far better for defence and net play.
    The looks and feel reminded me of the TK BXR.

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    Uberschall F5 P68 string

    Balance/flex
    oooooxo ooooxoo

    Weight/Head Weight
    94.3/41.4g

    The F5 is a great looking racket and was far more my style.
    A very fast frame, minimalist colours/details which I like.
    The F5 is reasonably head heavy with a small amount of flex.
    I could feel the flex which I didn't expect.
    The racket is another I would love more time with, my injured shoulder was aggravated with the mixture of HH balance and minor flex but the racket was so fast and yet so powerful that I wished I had time to get my shoulder used to it.
    As usual my comparison is with a Victor racket, the F5 feels similar to Auraspeed 90k, it could be a favourite for many players!

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    Uberschall F3 P68 string

    Balance/flex
    ooooxoo oooooxo

    Weight/Head Weight
    93.6/41.2g

    The F3 felt good as soon as I picked it up, the fast frame and stiffness was a very good match for me.
    The weights and balance was similar to the F5 but I didn't feel the flex or the Head heaviness as much with the F3.
    It's very fast and the stiffness means it's exactly where you want it constantly.
    A very good all round racket for anyone that doesn't mind medium stiff to stiff rackets.
    It's a difficult one to compare to others, I would say it's most similar to JS12 but with a different feel.

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    Kalkul A5 A68 string

    Balance/flex
    oooxooo ooooxoo

    Weight/Head Weight
    93.1/39.7g

    I specifically bought the A68 green string to match the racket, it looks great and plays amazingly!
    This racket is so similar to JS10 4u, I used the js10 4u for a long time and still have friends with the racket which I compared it to.
    The balance, stiffness and feel means it's in the perfect place when you need it.
    I would need longer with the racket to get full power out of it but I was very happy and impressed by the feel of this racket. I will be using A5 moving forward as one of my match rackets.

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    Kalkul A3 E66 string

    Balance/flex
    ooxoooo oooooxo

    Weight/Head Weight
    93.5/40.0g

    The A3 is another amazing racket! Almost as fast as the A5 but with more power.
    The A3 is more like JS12 with its speed, stiffness and balance.
    The power is more accessible than the A5 which is more biased towards speed.
    As with the A5 I want to use the A3 as one of my match rackets, it suits me very well and has the perfect amount of feedback/feel.

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    Overall I'm so impressed with the Adidas rackets, especially the Kalkul and Uberschall ranges.
    Adidas have included something to suit everyone and I would happily recommend them to anyone.
    I believe the rackets are on par with anything I have used from Victor, Yonex, Li ning or other manufacturers and offer great value for money.

    I will upload some photos at another point.

    Sadly I now have to send the rackets back to Adidas/Specialist Sports ☹
     
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    Very great summary indeed, thanks a lot Dave :) just one question did you have p7/p8 to test drive in 4u or 3u?
     
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    Is there a breakdown somewhere (possibly new thread for it?) of which carbon is used in which racquet?
    The spielers I have are are 24T, Kalkul are a mix of 30T and 40T, F5 30T, can't remember about the P7 but P8 was 46T. Judging by the chart the P2/P7 should be the sweetspot for me. I just can't get past how much i dislike the colour (and price) of P7. At £75 or so I suspect the P2 is 24/30T. The scientist in me wants to dissect an A5 and a Wucht and swap around grommets.
     
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    The P7 was 4u and P8 was 3u
     
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    F3 30T
    F5 30T
    P3 30T
    P7 40T
    P8 46T
    A3 24T + 40T
    A5 30T + 40T
    A09.1 24T
    F09.1 SL 24T
     
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    I seem to remember a link to the latest brochure somewhere which had some info on the materials and technology.
    I downloaded it before but must have deleted it.
    Does anyone have the link?
     
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    Here's the link above
     
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    Perfect! 40T(46T if you can handle it) seems to be where its at. Not that i didn't enjoy the others. I definitely would like to try a 4U P8, maybe with some of the weighted grommets removed.
     
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