BAM in a MESS! 2010

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  1. cheekygen

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    For MS, it's Lok CC & Lim FY, backup Wong KY.... MD it's Razif.
     
  2. pBmMalaysia

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    you mean the above players got kicked out?
     
  3. undeadshot

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    Just demoted, I presume...
     
  4. eaglehelang

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    Yup, pretty much.

    As I expected, esp for Lok CC & Razif.
     
  5. Aspire

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    I don't think any particular individual here would hook on the opportunity to give their input to the national body even if its permitted. What they actually meant was to express their grouses here merely for the purpose of discussion and they did it in the right place BC.

    When one is trying to get a conversation going and instead is shown the exit straight away, why are we here in the first place?
     
  6. ants

    ants Regular Member

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    Extended from 2010 - Now 2011 - Next 2012
     
  7. jug8man

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    It would be ok if that coach can develop iron boy into Iron Man, and then into Iron Athlete and finally Iron Champion.

    If Only...
     
  8. chris-ccc

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    Every national badminton association in the world is in a mess!

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    I would think so too. :):):)

    Why can't National Badminton Associations be like National Tennis Associations.

    I was saying in another thread that Li Na has done it for Tennis in China. Just hoping that Lin Dan can do it the same for Badminton too.
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  9. ants

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    The problem is that BAM is not looking at the bigger picture. The current Management Setup is looking at
    their own picture in the organization.
     
  10. pBmMalaysia

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    Bigger picture? Yes, they do and if fact they are looking at the biggest picture, of course zoomed in too many times by CTC. :D
     
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  11. OneToughBirdie

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    BAM is looking after their golden rice bowl, their entitlement to continual existence and continue milking the cash cow. How BAM can pay their non-playing staff high $$$ including idiots on high payroll going on sight seeing trip to London yet would not pay for a WCH room and board who actually was playing for MAS, pay the junior players meagre salaries yet the juniors are the real performers who bear the most risks cos' if they don't turn up to be another LCW their future are so screwed, bully players who don't kow-tow and dare to go independent, abuse of power to appointing another non-qualified MD to WC and bypass another pair who earn their right and knowing this pair do not have the political support and $$$ to sue, no accountabilty when WC11 was a complete failure except for a a blue chip winner in LCW...so Han Jian may rightly point out the flaws, so do you think BAM would actually listen or laugh at your face, and before anyone points the finger at BAM, who give BAM the power and $$$ to do as BAM pleases, hire people running BAM who are non-badminton players and are basically Datos, lawyer or politically connected. CLEAN HOUSE!
     
  12. chris-ccc

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    Clean house

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    Only hope that BAM committee members are reading and taking note of what we, BCers, are saying.
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  13. OneToughBirdie

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    Like they say, you can 'wish long, long lah'...those BAM overpaid, way underperforming and should-be-long-fired jokers, do you think they give a hoot to BCers thought, when they could not care less of what MAS media, rakyat, Han Jian have to say...come to think of it, the ministry overseeing BAM could be in cohort with BAM to let BAM do as they please.
     
  14. nokh88

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    Courtesy of The Star :

    For your reading pleasure,

    Expect more drama on Thursday as Chin Chai sticks to his guns.
    By RAJES PAUL

    KUALA LUMPUR: There has never been a dull moment since Ng Chin Chai became the Badminton Association of Malaysia’s (BAM) coaching and training committee chairman just over a year ago.
    So many controversies, upheavals and issues have cropped up since he spearheaded a major structural change in the coaching and training set-up, which came into effect last September.
    But Chin Chai’s not about to let it all get to him.
    In fact, Chin Chai, a lawyer by profession, plans to stand firm – especially when more difficult and tough decisions are expected to be made when the coaching and training committee meet on Thursday.
    The hottest topic will be the fate of doubles chief coach Rexy Mainaky.
    Will Rexy still remain as an elite coach following the shocking, and unexpected, decisions made by two of his top pairs – Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong and Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif-Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari – after the recent World Champion-ships in Wembley?
    Kien Keat-Boon Heong have made it clear to all and sundry that they do not want to train under Rexy and have requested to be put under the charge of women’s doubles coach Pang Cheh Chang. Zakry-Fairuzizuan, meanwhile, have left the national set-up to join professional outfit KLRC.
    Prior to the problems in the men’s doubles department, Chin Chai had had to handle the resignation of men’s singles coach Misbun Sidek, which even led to world No. 1 Lee Chong Wei threatening to walkout.
    That’s not the end of it. Then came the committee’s decision regarding former players Tan Chun Seang and Gan Teik Chai-Tan Bin Shen, which did not go down well with the players.
    Singles shuttler Chun Seang was banned from taking part in tournaments in Asia as punishment for walking out on the national team while Teik Chai-Bin Shen were angry with the BAM for dropping them from the world meet squad despite qualifying on merit.
    The duo have since taken their case against BAM to the Olympic Council of Malaysia’s (OCM) alternate dispute resolution (ADR). The case is pending.
    Chin Chai also had to deal with the constant tension between the committee and part-time high performance director Datuk James Selvaraj.
    James had claimed that he had been kept in the dark about most of the decisions made by the committee.
    “Yes, the last one year has been quite challenging but I do not look at it as an obstacle that prevents me from performing my duties. There have been quite a number of issues. I am disappointed that we did not win a title at the World Championships but I will continue with my mission – to help our shuttlers win an Olympic gold medal,” said Chin Chai, who is also the BAM secretary.
    “All decisions made by the coaching and training committee were done with the nation’s interest at heart. It is our job to ensure that the coaches do their jobs as best they can while the players give their best in tournaments. Sometimes, we have to be firm – especially when we know that it will benefit the country.
    “The changes we have made so far have presented our junior players with a lot of opportunities to play in overseas tournament. These young players also enjoy better perks now. We may not see immediate results from them. But give them another three years, we should see some results – especially if we maintain this structure.”
    With Chin Chai steadfastly sticking to his principle, it will be intriguing to see what happens when the coaching and training committee meet on Thursday.
     
  15. chris-ccc

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    People in BAM should concentrate on Badminton’s interest first

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    For goodness' sake, I hope that Ng Chin Chai won't say it's for nation’s interest anymore.

    I hope he is at BAM for Badminton’s interest.

    People in BAM should concentrate on Badminton’s interest first.

    If they concentrate on nation’s interest first, they might as well join a political association (not a sporting association).
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  16. OneToughBirdie

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    Oh come on, don't be so unreasonable after all Ng Chin Chai is only asking for another 3 years of patience so that he can continue to milk BAM dry...hmmm, if Rexy is paid RM180K and Bata James is paid RM80K, NCC being the boss gotta makes more than his staff, so 3 more years for him to plunder........:rolleyes:
     
  17. ksquared

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    This is all so sad for all to see.Malaysia will be malaysia. Its not just in badminton but in every other aspects in malaysia. This is why we see so much brain drain, local talents leaving malaysia and plying their trade elsewhere.......I am sure there are people who would like to help malaysian badminton, but do we seriously see a chance for them within bam???
     
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    Lol, chin chai chin chai la (in cantonese). Only 3 more years.
     
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    Your post could frighten off all their BAM sponsors. :p:p:p
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    Doubles coaching saga sparks rumours of Rexy planning to quit

    By RAJES PAUL

    PETALING JAYA: The men’s doubles coaching saga has taken a new twist, sparking rumours that chief coach Rexy Mainaky is planning to quit the national team.
    Last week saw some major upheavals in the doubles department of the Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM), with elite shuttlers Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif-Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari quitting the national team to join club side KLRC and top pair Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong telling Rexy they do not want to train under him anymore.
    They said that they preferred to train under Pang Cheh Chang instead.
    To make things more complicated, former international Razif Sidek made himself very much “at home” at Stadium Juara by coaching Zakry-Fairuzizuan and Gan Teik Chai-Tan Bin Shen on Tuesday.
    This must have proved too much for Rexy, who called in sick yesterday, thus sparking off speculation that he was planning to quit the national team.
    This is not surprising considering that Rexy had twice threatened to quit the job since joining the national team in 2005.
    So, will the BAM let him go this time if Rexy pulls the same stunt?
    That, and more, will be answered when the coaching and training committee meet at Stadium Juara today.
    The meeting is also expected to resolve the issue of having one too many men’s coaches in the doubles department.
    If BAM endorse Kien Keat-Boon Heong’s request to train under Cheh Chang, which should be a formality, Rexy and his assistant Rosman Razak will have only four players – Vountus Indra Mawan-Lutfi Zaim Abdul Khalid, Ong Soon Hock and Hoon Thien How – to train.
    And Soon Hock only trains three days a week under Rexy.
    Soon Hock is expected to be paired up with back-up shuttler Mak Hee Chun and they are likely to train under back-up coach Tan Kim Her for the next four days of the week.
    The coaching and training committee, headed by BAM secretary Ng Chin Chai, are expected to review the whole doubles set-up today and some of the changes may not go down well with certain parties.
    The panel could break up the men’s doubles players into three groups – under Cheh Chang, Rexy and Kim Her – as some feel that this would create healthy rivalry within the pairs.
    But some feel that this “divide-and-rule method” could give rise to jealousy, uneasiness and discord among players and coaches.
    Another option is for the BAM to keep the two groups – elite and back-up, with Pang handling Kien Keat-Boon Heong and Kim Her continuing his good work with the back-up squad with his assistant Chong Kien Ling.
    This, however, will leave Rexy and Rosman with nothing to do – unless BAM take the extreme measure of putting the duo in charge of the women’s doubles department.
    It is also uncertain whether BAM will go to the extent of promoting their Bukit Jalil Sports School men’s doubles coaches – Yap Kim Hock, Chang Kim Wai and Koay Kar Lin – to the national team and demoting some from the national squad to handle the school team.
    National Sports Council (NSC) director general Zolkples Embong said that they too were “waiting with great anticipation for BAM’s decision as most of the coaches have contracts with the NSC”.
    “We will just wait for the outcome. There will be a review of the coaches’ contracts (which include perks and salaries) based on the decision made by BAM.
    “Whether Rexy moves down to the back-up squad or Pang moves up to the elite squad ... we will be fair with our review,” he said.
    Unlike the men’s singles, talent is abundant in the men’s doubles department but without a proper coaching structure and unity among the coaches, it will be tough to exploit their potential and to turn them into world-beaters.
    It’s your move, BAM.
     

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