BWF World Tour Finals 2023

Discussion in '2023 Tournaments' started by Cheung, Oct 26, 2023.

  1. nokh88

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    WS is done too with ASY, TTY , CM and CYF.
    CM replacing AY who didn't participate.
     
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    But TS shows Kang/Seo above Alfian/Adianto.
    I think both these pairs are through.
    Danes need to win in 2 sets with huge margins to qualify.
     
  3. Hassefar60

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    Ahem.. there was reported bird sh*t on the mats of the warmup courts at Syed Modi.. just fyi. So if good mats are something you care about I suggest you direct your attention to where you may make a change for the better.
     
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    Danes are out already because they lost in 2 games and won in 3 in the "triangle". Kang/Seo and Alfian/Ardianto are certain to advance.
     
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    I think Kang/SEO is placed at first because they have a h2h advantage over Alfian/Ardianto. However, if the Danes won, Alfian/Ardianto will be placed 1st as there will be 3 pairs with the same amount of win so the tie breaker will be based on game differences instead.

    Complicated rules, I know.
     
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    I guess you loved the final match of WS Group a then :)
    At the end in the rubber game, Kim Ga Eun was down 17-20 and lost 17-21. Had she instead won five points in a row to win 22-20 (or win by any other numbers), she would have advanced from 4th to 1st in the group. That would mean a jump in price money from $15000 to at least $50000, which is around $7000 per point.. :O
     
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  7. BadSmashPdx

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    Yes.
    See Rule 16.2.2. If two Players / pairs have won the same number of matches, the winner of the match between them will be ranked higher.

    If both LSH and AA lose, AA will advance because he won his match against LSH.
     
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    OK guys. Can anyone state the realistic criteria in which Watan/Higas go through to the semis?
    Must they win Feng/Huang while praying that Dechapol/Sapsiree win Chen/Toh?

    Honestly, after seeing them meltdown yesterday in the second set, I don't even see the value of them going one round further to the semis only to get (probably) destroyed by Zheng/Huang or the reigning World Champs.
     
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    red card in the offing for Marin?
     
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    Marin's yelling is too much.

    BWF needs to do something about it
     
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    As far as I can see, From Yuta/Arisa's perspective:
    - If Yuta/Arisa win over Feng/Huang, they advance. If either they win in two games or if the Thais win, Yuta/Arisa also win the group.
    - If Yuta/Arisa lose, they depend on the other match: If Chen/Toh win, Yuta/Arisa are out. If Chen/Toh lose, Yuta/Arisa advance. Score is irrelevant.

    In both possible triangle scenarios, which both include Chen/Toh, they can be really happy that they won a game against Chen/Toh, because that is basically what makes the above so simple. In a triangle you just want to avoid being the one who won in 3 games and lost in 2. And Yuta/Arisa cannot be that in either triangle.

    The two triangle scenarios:
    - Feng/Huang, Yuta/Arisa, Chen/Toh for 1st and 2nd place, 2 match wins each.
    or
    - Yuta/Arisa, Chen/Toh, Dechapol/Sapsiree for 2nd and 3rd place, 1 match win each.
     
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  12. Anks

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    Yes and thats as appauling as what we see during the present WTF but the difference is at least that was not on the Main Courts or during the ONGOING COMPETITION or LIVE TELECAST...besides Im not in a position to make any changes myself thats for the authorities to do and as a fan I can just put forth my opinions.

    So keep your frivolous suggestions to yourself or forward it those who may actually bring about a change cause your post is a futility of doscourse and Im sure as heck allergic to such B**sh*t.
     
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    Correct.
    Feng/Huang is through.
    2nd spots, between Chen/Toh and Yuta/Arisa but if the latter wins, they are through. Their fate in their own hands where as Chen/Toh must win and hope for Fenf/Huang to win.
     
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    I hope CYF shoves all the screams back into this screaming jenny.
     
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    Just put this in your signature, you seem to end all posts with it.

    Due to the way you reported from Syed Modi I actually thought you knew people there and could talk to them and thus positively influence the tournament. Guess I was wrong.
     
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    Reporting from the stadium does'nt necessarily mean all the journalists or fans have direct access to the organizers.

    Yes we can talk to them and make them aware of their shortcomings which I do btw but eventually its their job along with BWF to ensure all the things are in place and BWF is a lame organization given I have had my fair part of interaction with the "Red shirts" and believe me they are never intrested to take feedbacks.

    And No I dont end all my posts with what you mentioned that was specifically for you EXCLUSIVELY !
     
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    Omg! what a match, terrific match and commiserations to CYF,
    are we witnessing a resurgence of Marin, guess we’ll not know till we see her face off with ASY.
     
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    Marin on fire
     
  19. Baddyforall

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    Syed modi(super 300) is not equal to WTF.
    And also practice court are not even qualified to be compared to playing courts.
     
  20. Hassefar60

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    No, of course not every post. But it was not a first. This was from Wednesday:

    I agree! It is BWF's job to ensure all of that and to tell the Syed Modi organisers to up their game if they want to keep the Super 300 status. And I do believe you about the feedback. We see proof of that all the time. BWF move like a turtle. And I am glad to hear you made BWF aware of the bird sh*t, which we can all agree is not good enough at a Super 300, even if they are only warm-up courts.
     

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