Can Malaysia take on China?

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LD will be working on how to beat LCW - he really has to come up with something special, else it will be a FRIED Friday with a Saturday headache.

BAO - He will know Hafiz is ready for him now that Hafiz has got going. The pressure will be on him if he is called upon to play the decider.

CAI-Fu -if KKK-TBH plays upto form (just as they did in the last two matches), it will not be a bed of roses for the Chinese. This will play on their minds I am sure.

XZ/GZD - The Malaysians Zakry-Hoon have nothing to carry on their shoulders whereas I cannot say the same for the chinese. Everybody knows the Malaysians are a scratch pair.

CJ - CJ knows he has a back problem that flares up when he has to call on a big effort. I just think WCH might worry him a lot on the day and CJ will be feeling it or his back.


If you look at it from my angle, the Chinese are under a lot of pressure. Malaysia is the underdog. They will fight better because the pressure is not as great.
 
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thanks Blurry D..^_^
think the organizer want to draw more crowds during night..
hopefully god bless malaysia team to win tomorrow...
 
Everyone has forgotten the 1992 Thomas Cup Semi-finals. They only know or made to know about the finals against Indonesia.

In 1992, China were the favorites to win the Cup again, for the 4th consecutive time. They were considered too strong with players like Zhao Jian Hua, Wu Wen Kai, Li Yong Bo, Huang Hua etc.

But Malaysia did an upset in the semis :)


This year, China are again considered as too strong. And also aiming to win their 4th straight cup.

Could it be dejavu? :P
 
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khelben23 said:
Everyone has forgotten the 1992 Thomas Cup Semi-finals. They only know or made to know about the finals against Indonesia.

In 1992, China were the favorites to win the Cup again, for the 4th consecutive time. They were considered too strong with players like Zhao Jian Hua, Wu Wen Kai, Li Yong Bo, Huang Hua etc.

But Malaysia did an upset in the semis :)


This year, China again are again considered as too strong. And also aiming to win their 4th straight cup.

Could it be dejavu? :P
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I remember i was a kid back then, screaming and shouting like there is no tomorrow. It was great while it lasted...

I hope history will repeat itself, i am just happy that Malaysia made it through.. it will be something to look forward to... So excited...
 
khelben23 said:
Everyone has forgotten the 1992 Thomas Cup Semi-finals. They only know or made to know about the finals against Indonesia.

In 1992, China were the favorites to win the Cup again, for the 4th consecutive time. They were considered too strong with players like Zhao Jian Hua, Wu Wen Kai, Li Yong Bo, Huang Hua etc.

But Malaysia did an upset in the semis :)


This year, China are again considered as too strong. And also aiming to win their 4th straight cup.

Could it be dejavu? :P
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History all over again.
 
After the Japan Fiasco, I was cursing and criticising BAM for choosing two over the hill players to shoulder the thomas cup challenge. not to put blame on WCH and HAfiz, but they are just to old and the other wishy washy results thus far.

But after the match against Denmarkand the way the two played even though one of them lost then I thought maybe we could make it.

But against China? It would be difficult for WCH to lift his game against CJ unless the latter is slow downed by old injury.

The best bet for points is 1st single and doubles.

LCW vs LD should be a cracker and too close to call. Unlike in 1992 where Rashid had never beaten Zhao before that night. Rashid had the benefit of Yang Yang telling him what was Zhao's weakness. Zhao didnt shoulder responsibility well since he always play last single and was pressured when things went wrong for him.

LD is a different kettle of fish. I think it still too close to call for 1st single. Assuming LCW comes through, the 1st Doubles not assured of points. It is better if Fu and Cai play 2nd Doubles cause KKK and Tan can whip Guo and Xu and then Fu and Cai will be pressured to play a scratch pair.

Now Fu and Cai will play all out against KKK-Tan knowing that even if they lose CJ and BCL could still pull them through plus Guo and Xu have 50-50 chance of over coming our 2nd doubles.

Now the odds are for 2nd doubles is 50-50 not good for Malaysia.

Cj vs WCH- this should go to CJ unless WCH does a FKK( but FKK lost to WU Weng Kai in 92 only to rise to the occassion and clobber Alan K in the finals).

2nd Doubles-doubt Zakhry and Hoon can raise their game again after yesterday's performance unless it is Hoon and Ong. But I'll stick to Zakry and Hoon, at least they have a fighting chance.
 
Hafiz vs BCL or Chen Long

Dont think general Li would risk a green horn for this. But could the ghost of 2002 haunt BCL ?
 
ants said:
WCH vs CJ - On paper CJ will get the upperhand. WCH is used to play his style and both their encounters is very close?. I do hope WCH can win this. Fitness would be a problem for WCH. CJ will be feeling the pressure here when playing against Malaysia.
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2009 World Championships Chen Jin 2-0 Wong Choong Hann 21-12, 21-7
 
ants said:
Hafiz vs CL- Hafiz past his mental barrier yesterday. And he wowed to give his extreme best if things goes down the line. Hero or Zero. I hope he will battle it out as if it is his last. CL is not used to play in these type of situation. If he is able to keep his nerves, he might be able to try to seal the deal for China.
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what made you think CHN will rest BCL and play the youngster?
 
yyclub said:
I don't know how to predict.
I just sit back and enjoy the show.
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me either....

But here is my point of view:

1. LCW-LD
LD is vulnerable to many players but he always seems to have the extra edge when matched with LCW. Guess he must have been focusing mainly on LCW.
LCW is pretty invincible among players other than LD. However, hope he can justify to his Juara Kampung tag. He don't need any secret weapon. Just strengthen his mentality and minimise suicidal errors.

2. TBH/KKK-CY/FHF
Either it will be an easy game for the Chinese pair (due to KKK's unmatchable ego and TBH's infinite supply of unforced errors)
Or
It will be a close affair if MAS pair can maintain their composure.

3. WCH-CJ
Contrary to the majority's views, i think it will be pretty close. However, if rubber game decides, CJ will definitely win it.

4. ???-GZD/XC

i)FUZZY-GZD/XC
Definitely a gone case for MAS.

ii)ZAK/HOONG-GZD/XC
It will be pretty close but in the end China will take it. As mentioned by someone before, there is no "chemistry" between them and too much "outings" from Zak.

iii)HTH/OSH-GZD/XC
I don't know why but i think MAS can steal it.

5. HH-BCL
Depends on who makes more mistakes.
Also depends on HH's "mood".
 
sonnymak said:
After the Japan Fiasco, I was cursing and criticising BAM for choosing two over the hill players to shoulder the thomas cup challenge. not to put blame on WCH and HAfiz, but they are just to old and the other wishy washy results thus far.

But after the match against Denmarkand the way the two played even though one of them lost then I thought maybe we could make it.

But against China? It would be difficult for WCH to lift his game against CJ unless the latter is slow downed by old injury.

The best bet for points is 1st single and doubles.

LCW vs LD should be a cracker and too close to call. Unlike in 1992 where Rashid had never beaten Zhao before that night. Rashid had the benefit of Yang Yang telling him what was Zhao's weakness. Zhao didnt shoulder responsibility well since he always play last single and was pressured when things went wrong for him.

LD is a different kettle of fish. I think it still too close to call for 1st single. Assuming LCW comes through, the 1st Doubles not assured of points. It is better if Fu and Cai play 2nd Doubles cause KKK and Tan can whip Guo and Xu and then Fu and Cai will be pressured to play a scratch pair.

Now Fu and Cai will play all out against KKK-Tan knowing that even if they lose CJ and BCL could still pull them through plus Guo and Xu have 50-50 chance of over coming our 2nd doubles.

Now the odds are for 2nd doubles is 50-50 not good for Malaysia.

Cj vs WCH- this should go to CJ unless WCH does a FKK( but FKK lost to WU Weng Kai in 92 only to rise to the occassion and clobber Alan K in the finals).

2nd Doubles-doubt Zakhry and Hoon can raise their game again after yesterday's performance unless it is Hoon and Ong. But I'll stick to Zakry and Hoon, at least they have a fighting chance.
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mark my words when it matters most ususally malaysian never live up to it.

I predict LD to win straight sets :21-17 21-19 against LCW

why?

1. LCW is usually slow starters before you knew it LD is 5 poitns ahead;
2. LCW seldom uses hie lethal weapon unless reaches 15 above, making him a defensive player and LD will punish player win lightening smashes whenever LCW lifts, LD anticipate poor returns well ;
3. LCW is good in defence but how many times can you take repeated smashing from LD ;
4. LCW backhand is not strong - watch how LD pushes to his backhand and force a poor return ;and
5. LCW is good in net but eratic and not cosistent


The rest are not up to par to even speaks. CHN 5 MAS 0

agree?
 
there is another way to look at the chance based on the world ranking.
for CHN = 2+3+8+5+8 = 26, and
MAS = 1+16+22+1+(46+20)/2 = 73.
btw, we are looking at the small numbers.
 
hot-turtle said:
mark my words when it matters most ususally malaysian never live up to it.

I predict LD to win straight sets :21-17 21-19 against LCW

why?

1. LCW is usually slow starters before you knew it LD is 5 poitns ahead;
2. LCW seldom uses hie lethal weapon unless reaches 15 above, making him a defensive player and LD will punish player win lightening smashes whenever LCW lifts, LD anticipate poor returns well ;
3. LCW is good in defence but how many times can you take repeated smashing from LD ;
4. LCW backhand is not strong - watch how LD pushes to his backhand and force a poor return ;and
5. LCW is good in net but eratic and not cosistent


The rest are not up to par to even speaks. CHN 5 MAS 0

agree?
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LD had actually lost to LCW 4 times since 2007, so it can be done especially at home.
and no, CHN 5 MAS 0 is not possible for the QF match.
 
No matter what happened, no matter the result, I will be behind MAS the whole way. Go Lee Chong Wei! Go Koo Kien Keat! Go Tan Boon Heong! Go Wong Choong Hann! Go Muhammad Hafiz Hashim! Go Hoon Thien How! Go Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif! Go Ong Soon Hock!

(I don't think either Fairuz or Tan Chun Seang would be fielded.)
 
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