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Discussion in 'Badminton Rackets / Equipment' started by meteor, Feb 11, 2013.
Can you measure the balance point and swing weight?
I'd like to hear your opinion on the feedback (vibration) you get..
Thanks in advance ^^
how do you mean "timing" issues. as bad as z-slash
The original Kinesis swings extremely fast. I reckon this frame type is a step above Bravesword series and even ZS in speed. Timing issues are to be expected of course.
In general: vibration of the badminton racket is not an issue.
After playing with it more often now, I start liking the racket more and more. The racket head moves very fast, making play around the net easy. The overhead shots are quite powerful (I'm loving it).
The timing issues are mostly an issue with the overhead shots (timing my swing motion wrong with smashes and with blocks). That however was resolved with two playing sessions.
Then again I also loved the z-slash. I do feel that this is an easier racket to use, due to the shape of the racket head and I like the fact that is medium flex (for my playing style).
I'll try to measure the balance point!
Just played with the X70.
So far, I'm very impressed. I thought the racket would be too light for powerful smashes, but I was so wrong. Seems to suit my game nicely.
Next test would be a restring to my normal zm65 strings. Default strings seemed ok, but I'm not so sure about the paint they use for their logo.
Also, directbadminton.co.uk are doing it for just under £100 with free extras, down from something like £115.
Thanks for the review. By the way, has anyone encountered problems like with the old Kinesis in that the frame snaps rather easily? I hope not!
Had the X70 for nearly a month now.
Some additional notes, if you bend the racket in your hand, the flex is right near the top of the shaft. In fact the frame flexes more than I've seen on any other racket.
Stringing wise, the groove or arches on the side of the racket are not symmetrical, so you need to string a certain way round. As a learner stringer, this caught me out. Nice attention to detail from Carlton.
I was undecided on XCelerate 67, I'm convinced that the thick paint used for their logo affected this string. In the end, I've replaced it with ZM65.
Now I'm in a dilemma, I want to try a slightly heavier Kinesis, but I fear the X80 is too heavy and the X90 is too stiff.
The frame is thinner, so I have the feeling you could try out a stiffer frame without it being too noticeable. I'm more worried about the stability, since the racket feels great in every other way (Though I couldn't test it for long). Hopefully I'll be getting an opportunity to test it thoroughly soon.
Have anyone try the X90? How is it compared to the Voltric 80 or the Victor Meteor X60? I'm currently playing with the Voltric 80 PG and looking for a backup racket but would like to try other brand than Yonex. There is currently a sweet deal on the Kinesis X90 so I'm a bit leaning towards it.
I have just purchased Kinesis X-80 racquets after using Air Blade As-ti racquets for years.
I could not believe the difference during singles play. My clears are effortless and my smashes are definitely more powerful. The same with drives and pushes.
Al in all I'm very happy with my purchase and cannot wait to get back to playing tournaments again.
I've been playing with the X80 in my singles matches for a while now.
My doubles racket is the Victor MX80, and I was basically looking for the same, but a bit head heavier. Have to say the Kinesis was more head heavy than expected; I'm not really sure that the fast frame can make a difference except during a smash which you have plenty of time for. Which in theory would make it pretty useless (if you have time you should be killing them anyway), but it has this pretty amazing shaft which really does make a difference.
It can be pretty difficult to get the shaft working, but with the heavy head to help out a bit, you can get a great response from the baseline to help get out of trouble (had to fetch a few underhands from behind me that I managed to send back far better than I had the right to ask for).
It is, however, pretty useless in doubles. It's slow. Head heaviness is really up there, so you can't expect it to act like a ballerina, but even so, it just couldn't keep up with with the pace of MD or XD at any respectable level. I've been eying up the X90, but haven't had the opportunity to really test it. It was really great around the net though, and seems to be the racket aimed for doublers. I'll definitely post again if I can test it out properly.
Also happy to answer questions about the X80, but there are only 2 other rackets I can compare it to (Victor's MX80 and Carlton's Airblade Rasmussen Titanium).
Are there any new Carltons coming up? Ordered the Kinesis X90 at a real bargain price today, usually they go down this much in price when a new generation is released. Can't find any information on that on the Carlton website though.
Based on your reviews here I am really looking forward to try it. Have a match and a tournament in the next week, and since I broke the strings on my Razor v1.1 earlier this week (and there is no decent restringer in my area) I most likely will take it into action (otherwise I still have the Vapour Trail Tour but that one lacks power in singles).
I never, ever want another Razor on my stringing machine. I'll need to charge triple to cover the hassle.
Is it really that much harder to string? I can imagine it is something you need to get used to, but is it really that much of a difference?
I'm not really satisfied with the string-jobs I got done in my area, my prefered one now is 50km from here so I need to find time to visit that store. They sell quite a lot Carlton I believe so I think/hope they can help me out
Where is everyone getting their cut-price Kinesis' from?
Hm, mine came in today, and they send the wrong one, X80 instead of X90. Considering keeping it and ask for a refund to compensate for the 5 euro difference in price, as I want to use it this week.
Can anyone tell what the difference is between the two and is it really that noticable? According to the Carlton website the X90 should generate more power but is less maneuverable. That is actually the opposite of what SolsticeOfLight claims in his post above.
Based on dry-swinging this is head-heavy enough for me allready. Is the X90 stiffer perhaps?
According to the specs on Directsports, yeah, the X90 is stiffer, head heavier and heavier overall. To me, the X80 has a nicer, more versatile spec. I'd be keeping it if I was you
Thank you, that was my thought exactly. Even though the extra stiffness would make it possible to get more "feeling" into the netplay, the lesser maneuvrability would make it less suitable for doubles. Not that I intend to play doubles with it, but you never know what may happen with the doubles racket (using VTT for that), and a switch to a racket you use frequently makes the most sense on that occasion.
And I don't need that little extra power, but I bet it will make me wonder in the next few weeks if things could have been even more powerfull using an X90...
Then you can sell me your X80