Chen Long ( 谌龙 )

Discussion in 'China Professional Players' started by robin7, Nov 6, 2007.

  1. CIA-99

    CIA-99 Regular Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2016
    Messages:
    7,164
    Likes Received:
    935
    Location:
    Malaysia
    Logic and importantly, rules doesn't think the same as you. and so am I.
     
  2. Justin L

    Justin L Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Messages:
    51,457
    Likes Received:
    4,190
    Location:
    Citizen of The World
    I earnestly hope that BWF will have the commonsense and pragmatism to institute a new rule allowing the reigning World and/or Olympic Champion(in the previous year where there's no WC) to have automatic qualification to the following year's World Championships.

    That would simply cut the Gordian Knot and put an end to these tiring debates once and for all.
     
  3. Devendra

    Devendra Regular Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2014
    Messages:
    967
    Likes Received:
    68
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    India
    I think it is up to the Chinese Badminton Association to forego Tian Houwei over Chen Long.

    I don't think wild cards should be used at random.

    I do support the principle that the past world champion be allowed automatic entry, however, since it isn't there, I am not going for the wild card.
     
  4. CIA-99

    CIA-99 Regular Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2016
    Messages:
    7,164
    Likes Received:
    935
    Location:
    Malaysia
    That is simply the way to go. BWF have to impose the rule of wildcard once and for all to disallow the unfair inclusion of player who take too much holiday instead of playing badminton.
     
  5. Devendra

    Devendra Regular Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2014
    Messages:
    967
    Likes Received:
    68
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    India
    No they wouldn't.

    Let's say Chen Long didn't win 2015 WC, but did win the Rio Olympics, and was in similar situation placed at 9th spot, when we all know that he easily belongs in top 3.

    I don't for a second believe that you won't be calling for a wild card for Chen Long.
     
  6. pcll99

    pcll99 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2009
    Messages:
    8,732
    Likes Received:
    630
    Occupation:
    Cylon
    Location:
    N/A
    RedShuttle, who has the final say on wild card?

    (a) BWF
    (b) Badminton Scotland
    (c) the sponsors
    (d) all the above
    (e) none of the above
     
  7. Justin L

    Justin L Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Messages:
    51,457
    Likes Received:
    4,190
    Location:
    Citizen of The World
    That's exactly what I'm calling for, automatic qualification for the WC/OG, read carefully what I wrote.
     
  8. gelopisan

    gelopisan Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2016
    Messages:
    2,404
    Likes Received:
    413
    Location:
    Indonesia
    I agree. Also that will be a good lesson to other players. Don't be reckless with your ranking pts and don't underestimate the rules.
     
  9. Justin L

    Justin L Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Messages:
    51,457
    Likes Received:
    4,190
    Location:
    Citizen of The World
    Childish. Petty quarrels.
     
  10. CIA-99

    CIA-99 Regular Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2016
    Messages:
    7,164
    Likes Received:
    935
    Location:
    Malaysia
    If that is childish and petty, then wildcard for Lin Dan and Chen Long should not be even brought up in the first place.
    It is unimportant and irrelevant to the badminton world, only existing as a chance for lazy player to go into WC without any hard work.
    If it is petty, then Chen Long shouldn't get any wildcard, end of the line.
     
  11. Justin L

    Justin L Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Messages:
    51,457
    Likes Received:
    4,190
    Location:
    Citizen of The World
    Badminton pros are less than humans, not entitled to vacations and long breaks to recharge, rejuvenate, and enrich their lives? They have to slave day in day out , training, competing, living a regimented life with little else outside of badminton for years on ends ?

    There's a saying, rest so that you can go further. And it should be encouraged , esp for those have sacrificed much and achieved much, They earn it. So BWF ought to recognize that and reward them accordingly for the betterment of the sport.
     
  12. Justin L

    Justin L Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Messages:
    51,457
    Likes Received:
    4,190
    Location:
    Citizen of The World
    CIA, no wonder.
     
  13. CIA-99

    CIA-99 Regular Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2016
    Messages:
    7,164
    Likes Received:
    935
    Location:
    Malaysia
    They are professional, after all. Isn't sport all about hardwork and perseverance?
    If they are so bold in risking their spot, I don't mind at all.
    If they seek free entry, then they shouldn't. They must earn their place, not because they won a tournament last year.
     
  14. CIA-99

    CIA-99 Regular Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2016
    Messages:
    7,164
    Likes Received:
    935
    Location:
    Malaysia
    Same as you. No wonder the one who brought the issue as childish and petty decided to throw it into the bin.
     
  15. Justin L

    Justin L Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Messages:
    51,457
    Likes Received:
    4,190
    Location:
    Citizen of The World
    For those who missed the match Chen Long - Lin Dan, here is the CCTV5 recorded video with commentaries by Gong Weijie and (I think her name is ) Dong Kexin

     
    CIA-99 likes this.
  16. Justin L

    Justin L Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Messages:
    51,457
    Likes Received:
    4,190
    Location:
    Citizen of The World
    In the BAC, the Chen Long of Rio Olympics is back, if LCW were to meet him, he'd be crushed when he couldn't even take one set off Lin Dan.

    Lin Dan is on the way back and will get better as he works towards his goals.
     
  17. RedShuttle

    RedShuttle Regular Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2008
    Messages:
    1,813
    Likes Received:
    443
    Location:
    Western Hemisphere
    If the host has no player/pair qualified in an event, it has a wild card in that event. In this case, Scotland has a MS player qualified already. So it has no wild card to offer.

    BWF has another wild card that "will be selected by the Committee of Management". But BWF is not required to use it.
     
    pcll99 likes this.
  18. Devendra

    Devendra Regular Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2014
    Messages:
    967
    Likes Received:
    68
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    India
    So you mean that an Olympic Champion should also be given direct entry to World Champs? Why? And Olympic Champ remains for 4 years, so do you mean giving them entry for the coming 3 World Championships? Do you also mean they should be given entry to ALL tournaments until the next Olympics?
     
    Rob3rt likes this.
  19. Devendra

    Devendra Regular Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2014
    Messages:
    967
    Likes Received:
    68
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    India
    The best way of resolving this would be for Tian Houwei to be dropped for Chen Long.

    If the rankings were just one week moved, he would already be out.
     
  20. pcll99

    pcll99 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2009
    Messages:
    8,732
    Likes Received:
    630
    Occupation:
    Cylon
    Location:
    N/A
    If Shi YQ and Tian HW announce their retirements now, then Lin Dan, Chen Long and Qiao Bin can go to Glasgow!

    I am rooting for Qiao Bin!
     

Share This Page