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Chen Long ( 谌龙 )

Discussion in 'China Professional Players' started by robin7, Nov 6, 2007.

  1. Justin L

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    Thank you so much for your compliments and kind words of appreciation. :)
     
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    One of those traits that I see missing in post-Rio CL’s game is his periodic counter attacking skills. He used to counter attack, whenever his defense gets himself out of unfavorable situations in rallies, during his peak in WC ‘14-15 and OC ‘16. Now days, it is more often than not, strong defense to neutralize pressure followed by patient rallies.


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    Good observation. Generally correct.
     
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    I recall reading in Kento Momota's thread some time ago that Hans Kristian Vittinghus was saying about Momota and Chen Long being similar in that they both are capable of playing like 10-15 good shots consecutively without conceding anything so much so that their opponents, himself included, felt they have to play one extra good shot to win the rally. And in his opinion, he thought Momota is something like 5 - 10 % better than Chen Long in that regard.

    Apparently, HKV is comparing the current Chen Long with Momota. I tend to believe that Chen Long in his heyday, say, from 2014 to 2016 when he clinched the three major titles, he was at least as good as, if not better than, Momota in that ability.
     
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    Allow me to elucidate a little further, the ability to play long rallies with a high degree of consistency and accuracy stroke after stroke, that is, multiple quality shots better than most players is the hallmark of all the top players, their defining characteristic.

    While I regard Chen Long and Momota at their best as about equal in that respect, I do think Momota is the smarter player in terms of better reading and anticipation of the opponent's game (so too LCW and Lin Dan vis-a-vis CL) whereas Chen Long is clearly superior in physicality,very athletic and agile, his main advantage over his rivals, in my opinion.

    Actually, with such a physicality as well as amazing defensive skills and retrieving ability when he's on top of the game, I felt he can afford not to construct his rallies too much against most of the players, but, instead, try to seize the initiative more often and go on the offensive as much as possible, including counterattacking after a successful defence, as long as the situation permits , rather than playing safe and starting the rally all over again (as Mohan rightly suggested, which I agree).

    In other words, I'd much prefer to see him play a bit more aggressively and be more proactive than defensive, passive or , worse, reactive most of the time. And , why not, as he really has the physicality and ability to do so.

    I'm afraid if he doesn't make his move now and maximize his capability, a few years down the road, assuming he's prolonging his career, age will finally catch up with him and his physicality start to go downhill perceptibly. By then he can consider transforming into another stroke rallying exponent playing a controlled game a la Lin Dan in recent years, though, personally, I'm skeptical of his ability to do well in that capacity.

    Frankly, I recall that a few years ago, Morten Frost once predicted that Chen Long's reign at the top should be a long one as both Lin Dan and LCW are getting on in years and, just as importantly, he has a remarkable physique as well as amazing retrieving ability, something to this effect (as I don't remember his exact words), a view I agreed with. And,I hasten to add, it's also partly because Chen Long's three consecutive major titles were won at the expense of The Mighty Lee Chong Wei, no less, without doubt a phenomenal feat.

    I mean, had Chen Long beaten some lesser opponent(s) than LCW during his best years, I might not be so impressed by his performance that I still think he is capable of having another go at the Tokyo 2020 Olympics. That's just my opinion.
     
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    http://sports.sina.com.cn/others/badmin/2019-04-06/doc-ihvhiewr3656464.shtml

    Just want to translate the part where Chen Long explained to the reporter at the MAS Open post-match interview today (6th April'19) why he didn't perform well at the European Tour, where at the All England he was knocked out by Rasmus Gemke in R1 and at the following Swiss Open, he was stopped by Sai Praneeth in the semifinals. (Note that at the INA Masters before it, he actually defeated Sa Praneeth in the opening ground).

    Chen Long revealed to Sina Sports the reason for his lackluster performance at the two European stops, namely, the All England and the Swiss Open:" I value the opportunity to play until the crucial stage (of the MAS Open), after all, my performance in the two European tournaments was affected by illness. I myself was unhappy about it."
     
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    Good points. Agree with all of them. I always thought Chen Long underutilised his height somewhat in offensive play. He doesn’t quite utilise it to intercept clears or create angles in the same way Axelsen does to devastating effect (granted, Axelsen is slightly taller but they’re both still quite a bit taller than their main rivals). If he could just incorporate a little of that offense, he would be hard to beat.

    But I do think that his playstyle and defensive attributes are correlated. It is partly because he plays so safe that he is rarely out of position and thus he is able to get to almost every shuttle (in addition to his excellent physique of course). If we were to encourage more initiative taking from him (and if he indeed does in the future), I think we would have to be prepared for his defensive attributes to decline at least slightly, something he may not be comfortable with at the moment. Momota as I see also has this mindset, a couple of times in the S’Pore final he tried to take the initiative to get the shuttle in a downward direction but got caught by Ginting’s crosscourt blocks and then he reverted to his defensive play.
     

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