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Discussion in 'Olympics LONDON 2012' started by FlamingJam, Aug 1, 2012.
I found this from CNN
They'd better not, if they still 'punya malu'. Need to save some honor here.
IOC said, enough is enough. Maybe they kept our mails sent to them earlier and pull a big plug on them. Catch every one off guard. Good work people. Keep sending mails to IOC. Shame on BWF.
"Reuters also quoted an International Oympic Committee official as saying the women had been disqualified but not expelled from the Games."
what does that mean?
Acording to wikipedia, the remaining, ahem, honest WDs make their way straight into semifinal. Is this true?
This "award" should have been in Lin Dan's rack since a long time ago.
will LYB be fired?
Well deserved !!! LYB
Indonesia and Korea have appealed china have not
Didn't the Koreans and Indonesians start playing more seriously after the warning? They should be given an second chance. But the Chinese and the other Koreans kept on playing the same way after the warning, they should be disqualified for sure.
I agree that this is too far. First off, you're technically doing the ethical thing, and DQing the pairs are justified for the lack of show for the fans. However, what you also are doing, is taking the show away from those same fans that paid to watch the "more exciting" and "more meaningful" quarterfinals-semifinals and finals. Now, instead of superstars, they can watch Tier 2 countries go at it. How is that for ironic?
I'm not defending their actions, but objectively, the way I see it, they did nothing wrong. It was well within their rights to play however they want. And please don't confuse this with match-fixing. There was no "fix". No one was predestined to win, and the other to lose. They BOTH wanted to lose. Besides, neither of the matches were between the same country's players, so why even bring up CHN vs CHN? It has nothing to do with this. They are both related in terms of sullying the good name of sportsmanship and competition. So yes, they are wrong in that sense. But you've never said no one could "not play hard" before. So why do it now? Why not charge Lin Dan, Taufik, Lee Choong Wei and other top players for their "first round farces" when they deliberately not try hard in a game? You know as well as I do that it won't happen. They won like they should have. So why take action now? Maybe YY/WXL etc would prevail and keep the seedings correct. You just don't have the right placing in your draw. I just think these 4 are scapegoats from BWF (big brother)'s blunder. BWF picked group play from nowhere, so BWF is to blame.
Well, this 'big' step has to start sooner or later right? Yes, the competition format is flawed and BWF should take a stern action against match fixing and WOs looong ago, then maybe, just maybe this chaos could be prevented. But it was also silly for the players involved to do this stupid act during the Olympic, in front of the crowd.
And when I read Yu Yang's statement, "We want to conserve energy..." and the Korean side of the story 'they started it, so we did the same', I just couldnt believe it coz they just cemented the ugly fact that they deliberately trying to lose.
Anyways, we still dont know if all of them are really going to leave the tourney since they still can appeal. So, still have wait...
"The appeal process is ongoing and a final decision pending. The BWF will hold a Press conference later today following the final decision."
They should disqualify and the other pair from china, if they did not lose from danish pair, all of these will not happend
Hey guys. Do any of you have the link to video of china vs. korea women doubles game?
I really, really think the way badminton draws being done should have been conducted by way of champion leagues. Re-draw for the knock-out round. So they will not know who will be their opponent next.
This try-to-lose-for-selfish-reason has been continuing for so long and let's face it, that was sick. Though I suspect kkk-tbh might have done the same to meet the thais in quarter. (did not watch, just assuming)
Even if there is a re-draw, still the Chinese and Korean didn't need to play seriously because they are in the knock out round already. The simpliest way is only let the top 1 team advance.
The reason it happened now is because the action was taken by a real sporting administration (IOC) and not the Micky Mouse BWF who have failed to act. Thanks to their incompetence in dealing with this Badminton has received another black eye and this time on the world stage.
Also if you think there is no rule against match fixing in the the Olympics (or many real sports for that matter) you are ignorant on the topic.
They should DQ the danish pair for pulling such an upset! How dare they win and upset the match order and seedings/format! LOL
My guess is no. Reasons are:
1. Tian/Zhao can still win a gold medal in WD.
2. Other categories are doing well and have great chances of winning gold medals too.
3. He can always say he never told the players to throw the game away. The players just choose to make this decisoin themselves and he has no control over it (nobody may believe this, but where is the proof that it was LYB who told them to throw the game away?)
@Stefanosx: that is ridiculous. The Danes were better.
@ Those who think this is unfair: Yes, the lines are blurry but it was the right thing to do. I believe that all of this is a joke if you start to lose on purpose. It's not about whether the rules state this or not, it's about ethics. Every sport has its own ethics. Without this we would all be f@cking savages trying to club your opponent to death after losing a match.
Also, GG @ calling the other countries Tier2. Every country can become so called T1. It's like empires: they come and go. From time to time some rise and stay exceptionally long, but eventually someone will take over the crown. Look at how the Russians are working hard to get back, how Carolina Marin and Viktor Axselsen are performing at their age.