Contenders' strategy to Rio

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    LCW-would not want to meet LD or CL before
    Olympic
    wouldn't care if he is #1 or #2 seed. #3 is
    ideal if CL is #1. #4 is fine if CL is #2.
    doesn't want to face LD prior to final.
    That explains why LCW is leaving England early.
    LD and CL have the same strategy.
    LD doesn't want to meet and LCW and CL
    before Olympic. Same can be said with CL.
    LYB wants CL and LD's Olympic points not
    too far apart, he doesn't want LCW has the
    opportunity to slip in between them. LYB
    doesn't want CL and LD group in the same
    half. that explains why CL is leaving early.
     
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    WS-3 Chinese are ranked 2,3 and 4 behind CM, a clearer picture will emerge after All England.
     
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    The way the twin lost, Ty and YY will probably go to the final against the Japanese.
     
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    CM didn't want another hard fight battle with either WSX or TTY.
     
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    LYD and SYY copy what other contenders did.
     
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    I don't think we can agree with that one!
    CM's loss yesterday to NO, is no way a "OG Strategy"!
    She was rambunctious and took g1 in a commanding manner + CM isn't among those who'll drop a match, prep for other tourney and all stuff! She is from a non-badminton friendly nation, she gives her all and tries to win every title, she is among those " greedy" or "hungry" bracket of players! Just my opinions though
     
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    Is this thread for conspiracy theories? Looks like it to me. Of course, there's also strategies or gameplans but only if they make sense, bearing in mind that even the best of plans can go awry as human affairs are often, if not always, unpredictable, and life sometimes throws up surprises when we least expected it.

    Whatever it is, it makes a lot of sense and good strategy for Lin Dan to move up to WR2 asap so that,assuming Chen Long remains WR1 all the way to the Rio Olympics,the two main contenders will avoid each other until the finals as they will be placed in opposite halves of the draw. In such a situation, only one of them will meet LCW before the final and we will not have all three of these archrivals bunch up in the same half of the draw as happened recently.
     
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    Conspiracy needs two or more parties to participate. Let use CM as an example. She is #1, doesn't need the points and is afraid of no one. This Olympic would be her last and All England is held every year. Why would she risk injury by facing a never say die WSX. Like every contender, CM want to peak at Olympic, not now.
     
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    The ans is hidden there "She is #1, doesn't need the points and is afraid of no one." The word stands for NO (Nozomi Okuhara) I dont think anybody will believe CM lost intentionally! NO currently (not sure about future) can def almost everyone, CM know that too, I won't say she is "afraid" but then you know the rest
     
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    LCW and LD still haven't played a single game. They probably won't prior to Olympic. WSX will beat LXR. She will go to Rio if she wins this Indian Open.
     
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    LD and LCW must have the same goal, which is to get to rank n.2 That way there is at least the certainty that they won't meet CL before the final.
    I don't remember if seeds 3 and 4 are randomly placed in upper half and lower half, or if seed 3 is in lower half with seed 2.
    If they are randomly placed, then there is a 50% possibility that seed 2 does not meet either CL or LD (or LCW) before the final.
     
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    To be frank, this time I find both Lin Dan's and Lee CW's matches suspicious, esp the former. It seems to me both of them are saving themselves for the MAS Open PSS next week where these two maestros cum archrivals are slated to meet again in the semifinals and awaiting them in the final could be their mutual archrival Chen Long in the upper half of the draw.
     
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    It happens again, LD and LCW won't stepped on the same court at the same time prior to Olympic.
     
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    It happens again, LD and LCW won't stepped on the same court at the same time prior to Olympic.
     
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    Based on the latest R2R listing which includes the IND Open SS results:
    1) Kento Momota
    2) Viktor Axelsen
    3) Lin Dan
    4) Chen Long
    5) Lee Chong Wei

    I'm sure LD, CL and LCW , all three of them would want to move to the top 2 asap so as to avoid meeting each other in the early rounds.
     
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    well now Kento is basically out so less competition up top
     
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    Can some smart members answer the following questions.
    What positions both CL and LD would be for Olympic qualifying if either one win the China Open and the other doesn't go to the final.
     
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    Chen Long made his move. Wait to see how LCW responses.
     
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    Repaste here as requested @pcll99


    Here are some predictions of the Top 4 BWF World Ranking after Indonesia Open SSP:

    Scenario 1: LCW meet LD in Final and LCW win, VA reach SF

    1. Lee Chong Wei 94453
    2. Chen Long 89044
    3. Lin Dan 78668
    4. Victor Axelsen 74034

    Scenario 2: LCW meet LD in Final and LD win, VA reach SF

    1. Lee Chong Wei 92803
    2. Chen Long 89044
    3. Lin Dan 80338
    4. Victor Axelsen 74034

    Scenario 3: LD meet VA in Final and VA win, LCW reach SF

    1. Lee Chong Wei 91153
    2. Chen Long 89044
    3. Lin Dan 78668
    4. Victor Axelsen 77334

    Scenario 4: LD meet VA in Final and LD win, LCW reach QF

    1. Lee Chong Wei 89503
    2. Chen Long 89044
    3. Lin Dan 80338
    4. Victor Axelsen 77334

    Scenario 5: LD meet VA in Final and VA win, LCW reach SF

    1. Lee Chong Wei 91153
    2. Chen Long 89044
    3. Lin Dan 78668
    4. Victor Axelsen 75684

    Scenario 6: VA the champion, LD reach SF, LCW reach SF

    1. Lee Chong Wei 91153
    2. Chen Long 89044
    3. Lin Dan 76668
    4. Victor Axelsen 75684

    Scenario 7: VA the champion, LCW reach SF, LD reach QF

    1. Lee Chong Wei 91153
    2. Chen Long 89044
    3. Victor Axelsen 75684
    4. Lin Dan 75388

    Summary: The plots showing us that no matter what the Final result, if LCW manage to reach at least Quarter Final, he will become the world No.1 and the other results not change the composition of WR no. 2, 3, and 4. At least CL still no.2

    The gap between CL and VA is too far away.

    Extreme Scenario:
    • CL WDN in INA SSP, AUS SS, and Taipei GPG, CL lowest point will be 86984.
    • VA become champion in INA SSP, AUS SS, and Taipei GPG, VA biggest point will be 81434

    So, the options will be like these:
    • 1. LCW | 2. CL | 3. LD | 4. VA
    • 1. LCW | 2. CL | 3. VA | 4. LD
    • 1. CL | 2. LCW | 3. LD | 4. VA
    • 1. CL | 2. LCW | 3. VA | 4. LD


    That's my prediction over the result after INA SSP ended, so it will be on June 9, 2016 released rank.

    And yes off course that 2015 INA SSP point (6050) isn't included for CL calculation for now, but he will loose 9200 point from AUS SS and replaced with 10th big point (6050). So after that 6050 will be included.

    Here is the detail calculation I made:

    92194 - 9200 + 6050 = 89044

    2015 week 22 : AUS SS -----> replaced by 2016 week 22 : INA SSP
    2015 week 23 : INA SSP -----> replaced by 2016 week 23 : AUS SS

    CL: http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=11267&player=108456
     
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