other
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http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2003/0107lightning.html
Just depends on how much of a lightning rod CL is
(I hope he manages to avoid it this time)
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Just depends on how much of a lightning rod CL is
(I hope he manages to avoid it this time)
Nine Tailed Fox
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IMO, LCW is the Greatest of All Time. Super Dan could only beat him like 25 times,LOL.
LCW has 25 Malaysian Open titles to brag about, something much more.
racketman123
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"Lee Chong Wei's Era"
Technically yes, if you consider the years he spent at Number 1, and the SS titles.
However if you think about the big ones...
Raajneesht
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sarcasm at its peak
Justin L
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Arguably, yes, but why split hairs? Should 2003 to 2005 be known as Taufik Hidayat - Young Lin Dan ERA ? How about 2015, Chen Long's ERA, anybody else came close and deserved to have his name added after Chen Long's ? What about 2014 when it was Chen Long who won the WC that year beating LCW who was then suspended for doping offence (the absence of Lin Dan for most of the year discounted him and he also didn't play the 2014 WC for lack of a wild card entry) ?
Frankly, though a bit reluctant, I'm willing to accept LCW's name added after Lin Dan's for he (LCW) is his most worthy opponent and closest rival but their lop-sided H2H in LD's favour doesn't seem to warrant it. Besides, Lin Dan's consistent victories in all the majors over LCW cannot be attributed to a bit of luck - for one or two occasions maybe but not every single time, the scoreline notwithstanding whether it's a close affair or comprehensive victory by Lin Dan.
I mean, in common practice, we named an era after the most prominent feature, a defining event, a unique circumstance, an outstanding figure whose achievements are unsurpassed, or an outstanding personality who stands out from the rest. Therefore, by calling it Lin Dan and LCW era is to imply that honours are shared between them, are they ? Lin Dan as we know owns 5 WC, 2 OG, 4 AG,and 6 AE if you like, not to mention several team championships. LCW, 3 WC runner-ups, 2 OG silvers, 3 AE. Incidentally,Chen Long has 2 WC outright and 2 AE over a shorter period and mid-way in his career.
As such, strictly speaking, that era 2006 - 2013/14 rightly bears Lin Dan's name alone, imho. That in no way diminish LCW's greatness for his name will forever be associated with Lin Dan's as his perpetual archrival to a considerable extent and more so than a few other big names like Taufik Hidayat,Peter Gade, Chen Long,Lee Hyun Il, as well as several lesser ones.
Frankly, though a bit reluctant, I'm willing to accept LCW's name added after Lin Dan's for he (LCW) is his most worthy opponent and closest rival but their lop-sided H2H in LD's favour doesn't seem to warrant it. Besides, Lin Dan's consistent victories in all the majors over LCW cannot be attributed to a bit of luck - for one or two occasions maybe but not every single time, the scoreline notwithstanding whether it's a close affair or comprehensive victory by Lin Dan.
I mean, in common practice, we named an era after the most prominent feature, a defining event, a unique circumstance, an outstanding figure whose achievements are unsurpassed, or an outstanding personality who stands out from the rest. Therefore, by calling it Lin Dan and LCW era is to imply that honours are shared between them, are they ? Lin Dan as we know owns 5 WC, 2 OG, 4 AG,and 6 AE if you like, not to mention several team championships. LCW, 3 WC runner-ups, 2 OG silvers, 3 AE. Incidentally,Chen Long has 2 WC outright and 2 AE over a shorter period and mid-way in his career.
As such, strictly speaking, that era 2006 - 2013/14 rightly bears Lin Dan's name alone, imho. That in no way diminish LCW's greatness for his name will forever be associated with Lin Dan's as his perpetual archrival to a considerable extent and more so than a few other big names like Taufik Hidayat,Peter Gade, Chen Long,Lee Hyun Il, as well as several lesser ones.
Justin L
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Well, if Chen Long is a lightning rod, he is perfectly safe and well-protected from harm. What does a lightning conductor do ?http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2003/0107lightning.html
Just depends on how much of a lightning rod CL is
(I hope he manages to avoid it this time)
Nine Tailed Fox
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I tend to disagree.
As you can see, Super Dan gets outclassed whenever he loses.
Ex : China Open 2015
Whereas,Champion Chong gets out-lucked or out- air conditioned in his defeats...Ex : Olympics 2012 or WC 2013.
Hence Champion Chong > Super Dan.
Hence LCW era entirely.
Justin L
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I say, let's not push it, simply call it Lin Dan's era, he is the preeminent figure, no two ways about it.
But just because of the major tournaments. Because counting only titles, LCW would be on top.
Justin L
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Dude, do I have to tell you not all titles are created equal ?
There we go again, I dread going into that territory. Just check with LCW, he'll gladly give you the answer what he values and wants most, what he'll happily trade most of his tiles for.
Relax, I was just stating my opinion, which might actually - you may not believe it - differ from LCW's.
MidCourtMediocrity
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You have to count SS titles too. I mean, by that logic, Rafael Nadal is greater than Roger Federer because he has a gold medal and Federer did not live up to expectations in Olympic games.
However, I would consider the time when these two were at a peak as the Roger-rafa period. Yes, Roger has won more but for something stupid like 4 years running these guys were in the majority of all grand slam finals and same works for LD and LCW. They dominated the world series and made it difficult for anyone else to win things unless your name was LCW or LD.
Comparing it to tennis again, I think we can safely assume we're currently in the Novak era because of his domination and how no one comes close. Even before he won the french open, it was still his era, so the same applies to LCW. He might not have won everything but he definitely dominated his fair share of the world series.
However, I would consider the time when these two were at a peak as the Roger-rafa period. Yes, Roger has won more but for something stupid like 4 years running these guys were in the majority of all grand slam finals and same works for LD and LCW. They dominated the world series and made it difficult for anyone else to win things unless your name was LCW or LD.
Comparing it to tennis again, I think we can safely assume we're currently in the Novak era because of his domination and how no one comes close. Even before he won the french open, it was still his era, so the same applies to LCW. He might not have won everything but he definitely dominated his fair share of the world series.
Justin L
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I'm thinking, even if the big-hearted generous-minded Lin Dan agrees to it, I'm not sure if Peter Gade, Lee Hyun Il, Xiong Guobao, et al, would.
Justin L
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It's not only the major titles won, their H2H also tells you an unquestionable story of Lin Dan's supremacy. Period.
Unlike tennis where Roger Federer has its Rafael Nadal, Lin Dan, say we call him the Federer of badminton, has no Nadal, and no Novak Djokovic either.
There are many great rivalries in history. Even in the field of sports alone, in most of the famous rivalries, honours are shared more or less between the two titans, seldom do we see the majority of the accolades, laurels, glory, trophies, awards, medals, and whatnots been won by one rival at the expense of the other as in Lin Dan vs Lee CW.
That's why LCW is widely regarded as the most unfortunate one for having born in the same era as Lin Dan; in any other era, he would have gain his fair share of achievements.
Unlike tennis where Roger Federer has its Rafael Nadal, Lin Dan, say we call him the Federer of badminton, has no Nadal, and no Novak Djokovic either.
There are many great rivalries in history. Even in the field of sports alone, in most of the famous rivalries, honours are shared more or less between the two titans, seldom do we see the majority of the accolades, laurels, glory, trophies, awards, medals, and whatnots been won by one rival at the expense of the other as in Lin Dan vs Lee CW.
That's why LCW is widely regarded as the most unfortunate one for having born in the same era as Lin Dan; in any other era, he would have gain his fair share of achievements.
abedeng
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I would think neither would win. Instead it should be one of the younger guard - CL, Axelsen, Jorgensen, Tommy Sugiarto etc.
It would be depressing for the younger players not being able to win gold while LCW and LD were still competing. Even in Tokyo next 4 years - the winner might be reminded that he won because LD and LCW did not compete.
samkool
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nokh88
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Your take is half of mine.
If both LCW and LD are on opposite halves, their chances would have reduce to zero.
other
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Well, if Chen Long is a lightning rod, he is perfectly safe and well-protected from harm. What does a lightning conductor do ?
Lightning rods (conductors) are preferentially struck by lightning.
And can be repeatedly struck.
That is all.