LOL this place is able to discuss this topic in a civil manner and not ignoring Kevin’s side compared to social media. In the toxic social medias, of course predictably people are nuts. People are keep repeating debunked things and spewing frankly dumb stuff are just crazy. Spoiler: Spoiler for sanity Many overlooking claims of Herry’s bad behavior and alleged suggestion of match fixing because he is a coach, older and has wise image, etc in favour of bashing Kevin because ‘he should be more polite’, 'respect your elders', or he should shut up about that accusation. I even read a baffling random post that said a coach has rights and is allowed to have absolute authority over their players. Or how Kevin should learn from Lin Dan about how to respect his coach (are we forgetting about Lin Dan vs Ji Xinpeng?). And stan wars made it even worse. Some stans of other pairs would hijack to prop up their faves, intentionally obstuse or misinterpreted stuff on purpose to spread more fire and hate. Many Minions stans are annoying, not going to lie. But stuff that I saw from their haters (especially Kevin’s haters) or stans of other athletes (not all, just rotten fanatical ones) over the years whenever they have their ‘chance‘ are just sickening. Some openly gloating that they hate Kevin and very happy to have chance to bully him. Many sound envious and keep bringing up the amount of his money, his rich/ celebrity friends, his wealthy GF and family (and of course their media business and would-be in-laws’ political party). Just overall sad people. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I just noticed, notable players that had problems with Herry (like Sigit, Kido, Marcus, Kevin) are on the shorter side. Coincidence, I suppose, but quite amusing. Kevin stated that he doesn't want to be under Coach Herry anymore, which could be tricky. Minions going pro but with The Daddies’ arrangement would be a good outcome. While they have resources, high level sparring partners are harder to attain. Both Marcus and Kevin have good relationships with many former national players but of course that’s different with sparring with current, internationally competitive INA Pelatnas players. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Outcome with Herry out or demoted would vilify Kevin even more. Many are really glorifying him like MezzL said, like he’s Li Yong Bo or something. Because of IO and this case, many have this image of Kevin being spoiled, ungrateful with bad attitude. Even though some bad things attributed to him already debunked. He’s always silent and this is the first time he ever said anything about the situation. I hope it doesn’t discourage him. For me, some stuff he had done on court in the past are cringe and he should know better. But off court, people who know him are saying good things and how nice he is. He keeps silent until he couldn’t take anymore and usually his outbursts are blunt and unfortunately not worded well. He’s still my current INA favorite player with the Great Hendra, so of course I want this situation to end well for him. I also salute Marcus. He was in this situation before and now dragged into it again (also will have a third child soon, wish him and wife a good luck). - - - - - - - - - Apparently the chairman of PBSI will respond (to the conflict), the fastest would be on Thursday afternoon (of INA time). But unclear if the response is direct (internally) or something that would be announced to the press. We’ll see.