Goh V Shem / Lim Khim Wah

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  1. Ferrerkiko

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    This pair is take things for granted , over confident, thats why they lost
     
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    i remember there is MAS back up pair had beaten this Singapore pair in Malaysia SS this year:

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    and yet this back up pair lost to the loser of the Singapore pair in this Malaysia GPG...

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    what do you think?
     
  3. Ferrerkiko

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    From what i see, professional players must do their best, if want to maintain their ranking in the top 10 position.
     
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    Goh/Lim underestimated the singapore pair. they deserved to lose.
    congrats to danny and chayut.
     
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    I agree with OTB. They don't deserve the harsh criticism that some Malaysians are dishing out and obviously, they are easy targets being public figures.

    It brings to mind one former player who is/was a forum member. That player commented that Malaysians are generally not appreciative of the players that represent the country.
     
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    this is not our social game, when u just play 2-3 times a week and week in week out expect to beat the same guys over and over gain.

    people then to forget these are all professional players, they work very hard to overcome their weaknesses,

    these Singaporean pair obviously has improve tremendously by reaching the final & then winning it.

    the gap between professional players are very slim... on a good day, Hoon Ji Hong can beat lin dan
     
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    they better learned this lesson or else...
     
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    Not sure whose idea is that to play Goh/Lim in All England 2014. Like I said earlier, they are not ready for Super Series or other big tournaments yet. If they don't progress, play them in lower league tournaments.
     
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    [h=2]V Shem-Khim Wah lose to lowly Singaporeans in final (updated)[/h]BY RAJES PAUL

    [​IMG]Goh V Shem-Lim Khim Wah were far from their best against Danny Bawa Chrisnanta-Chayut Triyachart of Singapore. - ABDUL RAHMAN EMBONG / The Star

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    PASIR GUDANG: Three months ago, shuttlers Goh V Shem-Lim Khim Wah jumped with joy after winning the Malaysian Open Superseries men’s doubles badminton title.

    But there was no such celebration in the Malaysian Open Grand Prix Gold at the Pasir Gudang Municipal Stadium on Saturday.

    The second seeds and heavy favourites gave a toothless display to go down 17-21, 20-22 to qualifiers Danny Bawa Chrisnanta-Chayut Triyachart of Singapore in the men’s doubles final.

    It was Danny-Triyachart’s first career title.

    It wasn’t as if Malaysia were not aware of the Singaporeans’ threat. Danny-Triyachart had already served an early warning when they sent top seeds and Malaysian No. 1 Hoon Thien How-Tan Wee Kiong packing on the opening day.

    This is Malaysia’s worst ever showing on homeground after failing to win a single title.

    But a disappointed Khim Wah took the defeat in his stride.

    “It was just not our game. We came to a point where we were not even brave enough to go for attacking shots. We must credit the Singaporeans for their good tactical game,” said Khim Wah.

    Khim Wah-V Shem just couldn’t get it right from the start – with both hardly showing any urgency in their game.

    Their movements were stiff and they often made poor returns that were easily slammed down by the Singaporeans.

    V Shem too put up a brave front, saying they will make a quick rebound in the back-to-back Indian Open and Singapore Open Superseries.

    “We wanted so badly to win the title at home again but it did not go according to plan. We will be more prepared for the next two tournaments,” said V Shem.

    China were the big winners yesterday, taking home three titles – thanks to their women power.

    Lanky Yao Xue nailed her maiden women’s singles title while Huang Yaqiong delivered two – women’s doubles with Yu Xiaohan and mixed doubles with Lu Kai.

    Seasoned campaigner Simon Santoso showed that he has not lost his touch by bagging his first title of the year after beating India’s Sourabh Varma 15-21, 21-16, 21-19 in a thrilling men’s singles final.


     
  10. Loh

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    The word "lowly" should not have been applied to the SIN pair as it could mean something undesirable.

    MAS MD Goh and Lim must have taken note of the defeat of their higher ranked #1 seed compatriots, Hoon and Tan, in R1 by the same SIN pair who had to play two extra matches to advance to the main draw.

    Yet the SIN pair persevered after playing two earlier three-gamers against strong opponents from Taipeh and Japan before beating INA Andrei and Hendra, also qualifiers, in the SF.

    I think it is through sheer grit and determination that Danny and Chayut finally came through and deserved to win the MD title.

    Mind you the two MAS pairs are no chicken feed and they have generally acquitted themselves well so far at the world stage. Any team would love to have them as team mates.

    But not the SIN pair until now. I hope they will play better from here onwards and win more accolades for Singapore.

    I hope Chayut will dispel further doubts about his ability and concentrate as a professional badminton player and shoot for the Rio Olympics.
     
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    i agree with you, Rajes Paul should not use the words lowly... I belib he do read BC :)

    I watched the replay last night, it was not goh&lim play bad, it was SIN-pair playing very well and putting the right strategy.

    Chayut won many battles at the net, knowing exactly where to expect the return.
     
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    Chayut was on fire and was very sharp at the net. The Singapore strategy was simple and effective. No fancy big smash or wild rally. In fact, there was not much of opportunity to rally and play to their strength. Malaysia lose to the better players and strategy this time. LKW/GWS need to improve their serve and serve return. Hopefully they will learn from this defeat and come back stronger. I think this young pair still has potential, losing a GPG final is not the end of the world. Forgive, forget, focus. Win SS consistently and prove the critics wrong.
     
  13. M3Series

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    I just hope this MAS pair can at least bags up 5 GP Gold this year. Then we can talk about the SS.
     
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    Are you guys expecting too much from Goh and Lim?

    We seem to have forgotten that Goh and Lim created a sensation only recently at this year's Malaysia Open 2014 Super Series Premier by beating the best MDs in the field:

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    And Goh and Lim were not even among the seeds when two of their compatriots were:


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    I'm not against this pair or anythg. But they went thru MO 2014 final by beating unseeded pairs.

    And they won the title by playing it at Malaysia where crowd is your secret weapon.

    But still, i like their discipline on court.
     
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    Back to service training for doubles players

    BY RAJES PAUL

    [​IMG]Lim Khim Wah-Goh V Shem en route to losing to Singapore's Danny Bawa Chrisnanta-Chayut Triyachart in the Malaysia Open Grand Prix Gold final.


    PASIR GUDANG: If there is one takeaway point from the just-concluded Malaysia Open Grand Prix Gold, it is that the national doubles shuttlers need to work on their service.

    National doubles coach Pang Cheh Chang is aware of it and he is ready to arrest the problem to get the players back on track.

    At the GP Gold, all three pairs – Hoon Thien How-Tan Wee Kiong, Goh V Shem-Lim Khim Wah and Tan Boon Heong-Ow Han Yan experienced some trouble with their service.

    Khim Wah-V Shem were the only Malaysians in action in the final on Sunday but they were humbled by Singapore’s Danny Bawa Chrisnanta-Chayut Triyachart.

    The Malaysians either served to the net or got caught with their poor service-return. For some, their service was faulted.

    “Service and service-return are so important in the doubles but this is where we faltered this time,” said Cheh Chang.

    “All players had their share of bad moments in service. Thien How, Yao Han and Boon Heong were distracted when their service was faulted.

    “Khim Wah and V Shem had their bad moments too and naturally, all this added pressure on them each time they could not get it right.

    “I acknowlege this problem and will look into it. When they get their service right, they will surely play with so much confidence.”

    All three pairs will take part in the Indian Open Superseries starting on Wednesday and hopes are high on them to salvage some pride.

    Thien How-Wee Kiong will take on Kang Jun-Liu Cheng of China in the first round while Khim Wah-V Shem meet India’s Manu Attri-B. Sumeeeth Reddy. Boon Heong-Yao Han have a tough opener against Denmark’s Mathias Boe-Carsten Mogensen.
     
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    Instead doing a drills on serve, i think they should be given more psychology endurance.
     
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    Not too fair to Goh & Lim isn't it?

    They beat the Chinese pair who have beaten the Japanese seeded pair.
    Does this mean they are inferior to the JPN MD?
     
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    SIN pair beat MAS pair. Does SIN more better than the Chinese ?

    Your question shows you don't understand what I've just said.

    You giv em credit for their winning the title. But i don't giv them credit for winning a 'home' title. Moreover they went through the final without facing the top 10 is what make me do not have very much confident for Goh/Lim to win any SS consistently. Thus back to what I said, 5 GPs a year 1st. Then we can talk about SS
     
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    They have won better than SS. They won the bigger SSP!
     

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