Hong Kong Open 2006: Day 4 - QF (31/08)

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  1. ctjcad

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    hmm, i see..From what i saw, i thought in the recent KO MD's Final, it was Tony doing most of the "work" and "damage" setting for Candra & getting the points rather than Candra. Of course the KOR pair made quite some costly errors themselves down the stretch. In that match, I thought Candra made more "errors" than Tony..?!?!.
    My initial guess on why Tony/Candra lost to Fu/Cai were because Candra made more errors and/or they simply ran out of gas(age factor also). But hey, they pushed to a 3 setters..Oh well, i guess next time around..;)
    Yes, that is correct, thanks for the correction; pardon my memory as i only remember Fu/Cai played against a MAS pair, but forgot which one.:p ;)
     
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    agree. isn't Taufik's father-in-law the chairman of the national sports council or something like that? the chance that Taufik will get much disciplinary action or even get kicked out of PBSI is really slim.
     
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    Maybe my impression is not correct... But it does seem to me that the Koreans prefer to attack Tony, and most of the times Tony could not survive three consequtive good smashes. On the other hand Candra defensed quite well.

    I agree with you that Tony did most of the setting up. And I agree that Candra made quite a few errors. But Candra's defense is just amazing. Only top form Sigit has done better.

    Candra is the most balanced MD player I think. Tony is better in offense than in defense.

    Anyway, I think Candra/Tony are kind of too old to survive Cai/Fu's attack, which should be the craziest in MD history...

     
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    I didn't see the match, I hope someone that did can comment but in general, with the 21-point system, you really won't run out of gas, it's really who attacks first and is more aggressive. That of course being Fu/Cai, it's in their nature and their game plan.

    With that said, I think Tony and Candra are very beatable in the 21-point system whereas in the 15-point system, it's much more difficult.
     
  5. ctjcad

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    Like someone else mentioned, no "backbone"..

    yah, that's correct. It's almost contradicting that Sigit can be "banned" for 2 yrs but Taufik is able to just "walk away" and compete again, as if nothing happened..And that's just the sad state of badminton nowadays, esp. in PBSI...The thing that really "bothered" me was Taufik's behavior and display of emotion right in front of the "volunteer" lineslady(from the pics, to a certain extent i feel a bit sad for her). I personally don't know how PBSI officials(ie. Mr. Rudy Hartono, Mr. Sutiyoso and the rest) will feel abt that incident?? I'm sure they'll be quite embarrassed..:rolleyes:
    I know IBF/soon to be called WBF don't have priority or authority over Taufik's situation, and it's not their fault, but IMO, IBF has to put down some sort of "disciplinary actions" to prevent something similar again in the future..:rolleyes: :p
     
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    A bit off topic..

    hmm, i understand Cai/Fu's style...But if Tony is being targeted "for whatever" reason, then there must be a reason why..Thus from what i saw/remember in the KO MD's Final, i thought it was Candra who made the "errors" by creating opportunities for the KOR pair to attack back thus they attacked Tony..If it was Tony, i doubt he'll create or setup something that will be counter-productive to his side..One has to remember, Tony is more of a "setter" for his partner, not an "attacker" or "defender"; that's why his partnerships with Candra or Halim are "ideal" because those 2 are attackers/good smashers rather than "setters"..
    Anyways, don't want to put any "blames" on those great players, they've tried their best, but came up short..;):p
     
  7. B3nny H4nn4

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    stop bashing on lin dan or taufik...

    like ppl say here, U dunno them in person....all u see is the outside. In my point of view both players are one of the nicest ppl i know...i know this becuase i have met with them and had conversations with them general and personal, throughout all our conversations, they are very humble when talking. You just need to understand that they are ppl too...with problems and bad days just like the rest of us. you can't base ur point of view on ppl just becuase of their first impression.

    Within 10 minutes of meeting lin dan...he offered to take me out if i ever go to beijing and gave me his cell phone #. just be more understanding to the players, and im sure if u ever get to meet them...ur prospectives will change immediately.

    sorry got a lil off topic here but the constant player bashing got me off ^_^
     
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    I agree that Taufik behaviour is not acceptable but there should be something the Referee can do too. Like replacing the Volunteer lineslady just to be fair before Taufik left.

    Taufik will never be better than spoiled. He has always been like that. And, there is nothing wrong with being spoiled. And you can still play good Badminton by being spoiled. Look at Mia Audina and some of other Indonesias' players.

    But being big hearted and spoiled are two different things. Big hearted is what Taufik missing of not spoiled.

    Big Hearted is not exactly like sportmanship but in this case, yes we can say that sportmanship.

    thanks,

    tcw2612
     
  9. agNEZone

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    Well..I think this is not the first walk out right ? I think from Taufik incident, the badminton championship should consider a replay ? I think its going to be fair for all the competitor...

    But, I disagree with Taufik action. Altough I'm an indonesia, but I dont support his move. It showed that he hasn't got big heart. If the umpire or linesman beiung unfair, you can't be emotional. You have to face the match til the end. Walking out is not a solution...Wouldnt it be great if Taufik can win despite the fact a lot of unfair decision has carshed him during the match? I still say that Taufik Hidayat is a man with talent and arogancy
     

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