How do I cut enough string from a reel for two piece with no measurement?

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  1. Exert

    Exert Regular Member

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    Hi BC, I recently ordered a reel of hiqua strings from MBS for stringing practice as I got my self a Pros Pro Shuttle Express :DDD, I was just wondering what are some methods (without measuring) to have enough string for the racquet for mains and cross! Thank you :)
     
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    I'm excited for you!!!
    Some methods I see are:
    Stationary body length:
    Cubit length (knuckles to the end of the elbow, etc), this is wrapped around on hand using the other. I see a local distributor do this.
    Pulled length:
    Length from my right hand extended to a point on my left chest (what I use, this is one yard): in this case, I use both hands to help with this.

    It is NOT good to use measurements such as one turn of the reel because the diameter varies based on how much string is left

    How do I find my special technique?
    Measure some funny lengths with a meter stick in comparison. As for the amount of string you will need, you will have to find that through experimentation!
    :D
    Here's some of my experience:
    I string one piece, with 31 FEET total and 9 feet on the short side (does not form crosses). I find it helpful that I can relate the constant length I use (see pulled length, above) to this length as well.

    I hope this helps!!!
     
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    Thank you although I don't really understand... Sorry omg I already string one racquet but it was a 10m pack of zymax 67
     
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    Mains: 3 arm spans + one full arm length (so 7 arm lengths measured from mid chest to finger tip)

    Crosses: 3 arm spans.

    That's what I do, with a starting knot. If doing 50/50 you might need more for crosses.
     
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    I measure against the racquet length, machine is Gamma 6004 with WISE tension head

    8 racquet length + 1 handle for main
    7 racquet length for cross

    Of cuz depends on pattern, tension & machine type it might require less. Like Babolat badminton they are only 20 x 21 so a lot less compare to standard 22 x 23
     
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    As above, I measure with racquet length, modern racquets are generally about 675mm. So a typical 10m pack is about 14.5 - 15 racquet lengths.
     
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    Mains - 3 Full arm Spans to be 100% safe. I usually do 2 and 3/4 ( up to my elbow near the end)

    Cross - 2.5 Full arm span is more than enough
     
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    Like both my arms stretched out and counting how many times it touches both hands?
     
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    [MENTION=108967]Exert[/MENTION]

    Yes. You hold one end of the string, and pull until both your arms are full stretched outwards. That counts as 1 arm span.

    I will post another stringing video maybe this weekend
     
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    Thank you so much ! & if you do I'll watch for sure!
     
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    I'm sure Kwun did a video about it a while back... searching for it....

    EDIT: I found it, I knew my memory was perfect:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPEikWRKoCs

    (credit to Kwun)

    This applies to 10m packs, not a reel, sorry, my bad.

    Kindest regards,

    -Ajay-

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    If you want to get more exact measures, use a meter / measuring tape and mark 0, 50 and 100 cm on your table/wall/any other surface. You can use tape if you don't want it to be permanent. Then you can use this for all future measurements :)
     
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    yes. the tolerance from a pack is quite different than from a reel. as from a pack all string ends will be wasted not matter what. it doesn't matter if you didn't measure precise to the inches.

    however, if someone really want to maximize from a reel, you need to do some experiment, see how much you actually need/wasted and readjust how much you cut.

    i know a local shop who uses a string measuring gauge to maximize the string use from a reel. rationale is sound as they do high volume, and also they do tennis racket and if they mis-measure too short, it will be an expensive mistake coz tennis strings are much more expensive.

    personally, i don't really care down to that precision, i do 3 arm span for mains and 2 arm span + 1 to the elbow for cross. even that i think is a bit too short. esp for the mains when there are 2 ends and having extra is nice coz i can pre-weave and don't come short.
     
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    I normally use racket's length as the guide. I use 6.5x for cross, and 7.5x for main.

    As other mentioned, you may want to try it, according to the racket, and how much you want to "save". Overall, you should be able to string about 22-23 rackets with a 200-m reel.
     
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    It depends on the string pattern, there are few variations, 22x23 is common, then 22x21 is common on most yonex rackets, I have even seen 22x22 on head rackets. Have I missed any?

    This can mess about with the measurements, specially when you string for people. I remember when I was learning and I tried to be precise, I came up short as with a dropweight you need more string otherwise the gripper doesn't have enough to grip. I was gutted and had to start again with wasted string.

    As safety I just used 5.30m for mains and 4.3m for crosses and that works out well for me.

    Kindest regards,

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    do you know about the starting clamp trick?
     
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    String job #2 (;
     
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    If you want to save some on a reel, try with 2 knot stringjobs. I do mine Yonex rackets in 8.5 meters and my coach Babolat rackets in 8 meters.
     
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    Not sure how to do 1 piece string jobs
     
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    Its quite easy. I find it alot better to string with as opposed to yonex's 2 piece. This will also help you converse string as well. Before, stringing the generic way, I can get away with 5 arm spans length of string to complete a full racket.

    If you want to REALLY get fancy, you can check out the Spider Pattern thread. That is also a 1-piece string pattern, but its not self explanatory as it is a "around the world" pattern. For this one, I use a little longer than 5 arm spans, depending on the racket. This pattern allowed for me to string one of my old cracked rackets (Crack was on the top tie off hole) as it minimize/eliminate warping throughout the racket while stringing.
     

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