I feel I have a lot to work on, but where should I start first?

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  1. ralphz

    ralphz Regular Member

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    What do the videos you have seen tell you about where the racket should face, and where it should be? (you can include timeframes, still images).

    Re your racket head dropping, see post #109, (Page 6 of the thread)., where we managed to get Cheung to provide a timeframe and a diagram of what he meant! That is very useful. (put aside some technicalities re that diagram that have been mentioned, and not to you, about forearm and racket shaft).

    As to how to get there(that diagram), you could think about some of the anatomical changes you could make to get the racket shaft or the forearm more upright, then ask if they are correct.. You could think about, what happens when you raise the elbow, does the elbow also come out a bit, and does that change the orientation of the forearm. Does externally rotating the upper arm make a difference. You could try some of those anatomical changes to get a better understanding of how they affect where the racket is, and see how it looks You could even do a video saying "is the racket preparation like this? Is it like this.." and see what is advised. And hopefully people can point to timeframes showing you exactly what they are talking about.
     
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    I guess that something else is changeing, too.

    Alright, I just watched a few strokes from the second video from Jan 8, it looks like your strings are facing outward, not completely, but mostly, so I'm not sure I understood that correctly.

    And that's one of the huge advantages of in person coaching. It gives the coach to see what is helping the player and what is not.

    Just keep the racket head up while pulling the elbow back. quite easy to do.... just also easy to forget on court again. On the other hand, why let it drop? You just lose time and consistency.

    Ideally, far enough up that the forward movement of your elbow causes you forearm to supinate passively.

    In your video, you hold the racket head (not steadily, so it's hard to say) in front of your head, so you can see it. That's often taught, because it makes things easier. The player sees the head, so he knows it's where it's supposed to be. This position ensures that the elbow is bent < 90° and the elbow is probably away from the body - and that's two very important points. It also means you need to actively pull the racket back when starting the stroke. With a more compact stroke you want that to be passive, but for that to work, the racket head must be (roughly) above your head, in line (well, plane) with your shoulders, elbow, wrist, ... This means you cannot see it anymore which makes it more difficult and more prone to error.

    For now, get your pronation figured out and use whatever is helpful for you! Also try to prevent the racket's head from dropping. Maybe it also helps to get the muscles used to the pronation/supination by doing the "windshield wiper" (both arms) with your upper arm close to your body and your elbow at a 90° angle. Make sure to really turn more than 180° pronating/supinating.
     
  3. precrime3

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    So I was jetlagged still and decided to record my swing now, given that I have some more experience and more feedback from in person coach and you lovely internet strangers :)

    This was recorded a few minutes ago and I'm super jetlagged so excuse my hair lol....

    THis is in 240 FPS so feel free to slow down as much has you'd like. I tried to really pay attention to where my racket head is, as well as making sure I'm pronating properly, and not just throwing the elbow forward, but also up.

     
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