Well.. - Well, IMO, INA doubles dept., esp. the MD, has never really lost its footing. They are after all, one of, if not the most dominant & consistent doubles specialists in the world. - True, Markis and whoever was his partner never won any big titles nor made "big bangs" when they were teens. However, it's not really a surprise. As a matter of fact, if one is to do a bit of research, one will find that most of the INA's doubles greats (Christian H., Tony G., Candra W., Sigit B., to name a few) didn't get a taste of their first major or non-major title(s) til they were in their early twenties. Roughly the same age as Markis & Hendra when they won their first major title. Markis and whoever his partner was (Hendra) won the Asian Champ and Indonesia Open when they were 21. Heck, he & his partner were the runner-ups in the Denmark Open when he was 20. - Maria? What about her? What major, or even Open type, tourneys has she won other than finishing as a Semifinalist in last yr's OG? All of her titles have been Satellite type tourneys. Off topic: - Personally, I take what Taufik say or mentioned with a grain of salt. Remember, he kinda said/mentioned the same thing before, during his 2006-2008 big tourney appearances, yet look at what happened. I'm only concerned about result. If his current "attitude on court" has changed etc., like he said, well, let's see 'em titles, esp. SS titles, rack up by the boatload. - Of course, the goal for every team is to win. But, again, let's look at it realistically. In this case, INA's chances. If the percentage of winning it all is say @ 30% (less than 50%), w/veteran players or not, like you put it, then why don't PBSI give the younger, with some experience players a chance to perform. Rather than the same old, same old players? The younger, more experienced players have got nothing to lose & they'll gain something from being put in this type of high level team competition. - It's fine if we agree to disagree. But i'm still looking for an explanation on why sending & playing veteran players instead of younger, somewhat experienced players will benefit the players, esp. the veteran players? What will the veteran players gain if they're the ones being asked to play & perform? What will the younger, somewhat more experienced players gain by not given a chance to play? - I don't really care much whether Tommy is 2 or 3 or 4 yrs younger than Andre. I haven't really seen much of Andre's nor Tommy's game, but if Tommy or his game does have more upside than Andre, then his results would speak for themselves, wouldn't they? Again, as i mentioned earlier, i'm making as much reservation on them as i can.