India Badminton

Airos said:
Can we say now say that India is a big badminton nation now?
Like - can we say that India is at least a top 7 nation in badminton? Or may be even top 5?
I mean we have been medaling at Olympics/WC for the last 10 or so years without fail. 2 bronzes in Uber cup was also won during this time. And now we have a Thomas cup gold.
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We still need to win the Sudirman Cup! Doubles needs a lot of improvement before we can earn a big badminton nation tag. WS, WD are a work in progress. We need to have at least 6 top MD players to become formidable.
 
badmuse said:
We still need to win the Sudirman Cup! Doubles needs a lot of improvement before we can earn a big badminton nation tag. WS, WD are a work in progress. We need to have at least 6 top MD players to become formidable.
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Absolutely. The way I see it right now is that we hardly have any backups apart from the men's singles. Men's doubles only got Sat/Chi who often gets shaky but I am sure that's going to change after this huge win. Arjun/Dhruv have potential but they need to cross that fine line which is holding them back. PV Sindhu doesn't have anyone to share the mantle with. In women's doubles only Treesa/Gayatri have shown signs that they can challenge the row. XD is currently non existent and I don't see Tanisha/Ishaan up there as of yet. So all in all there are a lot of loopholes which needs to be fixed. I think China, Japan and Korea have the most stable teams if we talk about all 5 disciplines. Then there is Indonesia, Malaysia, Chinese Taipei, Denmark who have a strong men's team but have missing links in the women's department. Thailand has exactly opposite situation. India is in the mix. To be able to do well in a mixed team event we atleast need a reliable WD and XD combination.
 
Baddyforall said:
This was nice. He wrote whatever he was having inside his mind for these many years. He loves Badminton to the core. He praised Saina and Sindhu and also mentioned their mind when coming to Team event etc. One point to be noted is about participation of Saina and Sindhu in Team events. It seems like if one participate, other wont participate .
I wonder what is the role of BAI in that case. They wont force them to play?
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There are lessons to be learned from Saina PV in team events. Players should accept what is perceived as best for the country as a whole. It's the role of the association, coaches and players to do what's best for the country. Sometimes bringing on an injured player is a tactical advantage - Indonesia did this for their no.1 singles player in 1998 Thomas cup who clearly couldn't last two games.
 
Cheung said:
There are lessons to be learned from Saina PV in team events. Players should accept what is perceived as best for the country as a whole. It's the role of the association, coaches and players to do what's best for the country. Sometimes bringing on an injured player is a tactical advantage - Indonesia did this for their no.1 singles player in 1998 Thomas cup who clearly couldn't last two games.
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I can feel that there is a good team bonding in the men's team. I remember Lakshya and Srikanth coaching each other in one of the tournaments when they were without coaches, despite them being from different academies.
That sort of camaraderie helped in winning the title.
Not seen such bonding in the women's team with Saina or Sindhu, maybe because the difference between them and other Indian girls is vast. If they had trained together and with other girls, it could have benefited everyone.
 
badmuse said:
We still need to win the Sudirman Cup! Doubles needs a lot of improvement before we can earn a big badminton nation tag. WS, WD are a work in progress. We need to have at least 6 top MD players to become formidable.
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Ya, the Sudirman cup needs a medal from India.
Also, we haven't actually won the All England in a long time. Several players(most recently Lakshya) have come close and medaled, but none managed to win. Sindhu did win the world tour finals though - which was huge.
 
rajat_remar said:
I can feel that there is a good team bonding in the men's team. I remember Lakshya and Srikanth coaching each other in one of the tournaments when they were without coaches, despite them being from different academies.
That sort of camaraderie helped in winning the title.
Not seen such bonding in the women's team with Saina or Sindhu, maybe because the difference between them and other Indian girls is vast. If they had trained together and with other girls, it could have benefited everyone.
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And also how Srikanth gave the credit to Vimal Kumar for the success was so touching. There was a sense of familyhood in the team if that's any term. You could see Vimal, Sen Sr., Boe, that obese doubles coach, Sidayat everyone talking with each other and congratulating each other. For once, there was no discord among the two academies. Very heartening to see.
 
Baddie lover said:
And also how Srikanth gave the credit to Vimal Kumar for the success was so touching. There was a sense of familyhood in the team if that's any term. You could see Vimal, Sen Sr., Boe, that obese doubles coach, Sidayat everyone talking with each other and congratulating each other. For once, there was no discord among the two academies. Very heartening to see.
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Also, I liked the fact it was Priyanshu who lifted the trophy first. It is very clear that the team bonding was good. And you probably cannot win a big team event without good team bonding.
 
thiwul said:
india is lucky to win thomas cup

i doubt they can repeat it
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India will definitely win the Thomas Cup again! At a later stage they will also win the Sudirman and Uber Cup. It's difficult to believe and digest that Indians can play badminton and match the best teams in the world. Over the coming years India will become better and stronger. :)
 
Cheung said:
There are lessons to be learned from Saina PV in team events. Players should accept what is perceived as best for the country as a whole. It's the role of the association, coaches and players to do what's best for the country. Sometimes bringing on an injured player is a tactical advantage - Indonesia did this for their no.1 singles player in 1998 Thomas cup who clearly couldn't last two games.
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That kind of dedication and discipline , indian players need to learn. Here in India, most of the time, players do what comes to their mind. Coaches are not forcing them. That's the problem. They should have a guidelines( now they are trying to bring that. Something like selection trials etc, before there was nothing) which should say that if you dont obey, you wont be funded ,something like that. The problem is, they make them celebrities and then if you try to discipline them, media make it so much drama about it. As far as Uber team is concerned, india still need to do lots of work.
 
badmuse said:
The following sports writer Sanjay Sharma predicted that India would win the Thomas Cup. This was written 3 weeks ago, it also gives some details of the older format in the Thomas Cup.

https://www.news18.com/news/sports/...ons-biggest-prize-the-thomas-cup-5030899.html
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He discussed indian team's possibilities against every top team. It is commendable. I recognised some mistakes. Not to take anything away from him, he mentioned Shi yuqi in the place of first singles for china. I think he does not follow badminton regularly but wrote the whole article using ranking list and results. Commendable. But he is quite knowledgeable person when it comes to 50's and 70's players.
 
arjevo said:
I can still see most of them in the draw apart from Lakshya and Satvik/Chi. I think Lakshya never entered the draw. Not sure about the latter.
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SatChi apparently withdrew. I don’t understand why SK & HSP decided to play. They should be coming back home to rejoice this victory


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