Is BAM going in the right direction?

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  1. taneepak

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    I think Rashid may have damaged himself with a self-inflicted wound. With his badmouthing of his employer when things don't turn out his way, who would hire him again? The costs of things going wrong are just too great for any national associations to consider hiring him. Even if he gets an offer the terms will be stacked against him.

    Also, I can appreciate national players belonging to BAM playing in other countries' super or premier league, provided they get clearance from BAM and it is in the interest of the players' development and is not inconsistent with BAM's overall strategy. However, I have serious doubts and questions about BAM's coaches coaching in the other countries' super leagues even if the calender allows time for them. This is a conflict of interest because coaches cannot be seen to share secrets of their national charges' strengths, weakness, and strategy with other countries' players. This is tantamount to selling state secrets. To even consider allowing coaches to coach in other countries' super leagues is obscene, let alone giving them any clearance to do so.
     
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    lcw said he might become independent
     
  4. taneepak

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    May I suggest to LCW to seriously consider helping his backup players who will gradually take over from him to reach a standard that is comparable to what he has achieved. BAM has put so much resources, finances, rewards, awards, all sorts of tender attention and titles on him that should as a minimum stir his conscience to pay back his dues. Going independent will do no such thing. It will only make things worse, making it look more like he is running away from one of the greatest challenges of his badminton career-to challenge and help bring up to par his team mates.
    It is important he now considers his legacy he is leaving behind-as an individual or as a team player.
     
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    He's already spent quite a bit of time trying to help his team mates develop, yet there is still no real sign of Daren Liew or Chong Wei Feng improving. DL won a SS title, but that's the absolute height of his achievements, and since then he hasn't been able to replicate anything close to that feat. One might even suggest he got lucky and benefited from a weak draw (SS Final against Axelsen has to be the easiest of all SS/PSS events).
    I wouldn't hold it against LCW if he were to go independant, he has lost both Sidek brothers as coaches now...and has given a lot to BAM (all the team competitions he played and was the only singles player to be taken seriously....training with far inferior players for years, who seem to be unable to develop in any meaningful way...).
     
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    "BAM Revert To Original Plan With Launch Of New Project
     
    Monday, Sep 23 2013"... Now what?
     
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    Yes. Everything back to square after LCW threatening ! The next thing is TAM quit from BAM....
     
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    Courtesy of The Star :

    BAM revert to original plan with launch of new project By RAJES PAUL
    [​IMG]The Badminton Association of Malaysia president Tengku Tan Sri Mahaleel Tengku Ariff having a word with doubles shuttler Koo Kien Keat.

    KUALA LUMPUR: Some cheers and smiles were back in the coaching stable of the Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) on Monday after another round of change.

    All the national coaches were reinstated in their original positions as BAM launched their new project – Project Win-Win – with the aim of becoming champions in the Olympic Games, Thomas Cup, Asian Games, World Championships and Commonwealth Games.

    The BAM also decided not to proceed with the plan to form Teams A, B and C, which caused some uneasiness among the coaches as many were moved around. Instead, they will stick to just one national team.

    Most of the Bukit Jalil Sports School (BJSS) coaches, who were earlier promoted to the national team, have been sent back to the school programme.

    The national team will be headed by Talent Management Group (TMG) director Tan Aik Mong and assisted by assessor Razif Sidek.

    The coaches are Tey Seu Bock and Hendrawan (men’s singles), Paulus Firman and Pang Cheh Chang (men’s doubles), Wong Tat Meng, Ronny Agustinus, Woon Sze Mei (women’s singles), Rosman Razak and Chin Eei Hui (women’s doubles), Jeremy Gan and Wong Pei Tty (mixed doubles).

    Only Ronny, Cheh Chang, Sze Mei and Pei Tty are from the BJSS set-up.

    Yesterday, BAM president Tengku Tan Sri Mahaleel Tengku Ariff, who spent more than six hours to explain, empower and motivate the coaches over the new initiatives, said that it was time to turn over a new leaf.

    “We had a good session where all the coaches gave their inputs today.

    “We launched Project Win-Win and the coaches have a challenging job to produce winners in these upcoming major tournaments – Thomas Cup Finals, World Cham*pionships, Common*wealth Games and Asian Games next year,” said Tengku Mahaleel.

    Mahaleel said that the coaches were given a big role to contribute. “We gave the coaches the opportunity to choose where they can contribute the best and they voluntarily did. Some of them have gone back to BJSS and some back to the national team. There are no more different teams,” he said.

    “During the meeting, the coaches also ranked their players from No. 1-5. Together, they also identified four potential world champions. We will be focusing on these players.

    “The coaches also gave names of potential players outside of BAM and we will call these players to attend matchplays with the national team and give them the opportunity to represent the country if they are good enough. This will be an ongoing process.”

    When asked whether Rashid Sidek would be recalled for the national team now that the system has changed again, Mahaleel said: “We have to wait for the findings over his contract with Indian Badminton League (IBL).

    “It will be presented to the council. It will be up to the council to make a decision on him – if he (Rashid) wants to join the national team again.”

    Rashid quit the national team on Thursday because he was not comfortable working under the new coaching environment at that time.

    Was it a ploy to oust Rashid Sidek? or is it what we called play "masak-masak"
     
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    Let TAM quit, Mahaleel pls bring in PJB.
    Can someone tell me what TAM have actually achieved prior to his employment - are
    there any worldclass players that he had nurtured or coach or produced.
    I think with regards to world class coaching, both TAM and RS are equally mediocre!
    UBAH FOR SUCCESS - GET PJB who got 2 finalist from Japan contesting in Japan
    Open WS final despite having word class Olympics and World champions in the fray
    plus numerous potential men single players and improving double players.
     
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    PJB has also failed in his previous attempt as chief double coach in Malaysia. You think PJB is stupid ? Given BAM management system and mentality of our present batch of players, PJB know that there is no ways for him to produce world beater ! That's why he has chosen Japan instead of Malaysia !
     
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    Actually TAM has adopted a continuous development quality assessment system which has been proven successful and effective in many skills training programs where we have learners (players),assessors (coaches), internal verifiers (TAM assistants) and assessment manager (TAM)!
    Also, many of the coaches have been in the present position for too long, they have been un productive and ineffective , by swapping them around, this will give the coaches new breath of air !
     
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    As far as I am aware, TAM's role is not as a coach...therefore, TAM's track record in coaching is an irrelevant point. His role is to look at the bigger picture which he is doing for free.
     
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    If I'm PJB, I will not come unless BAM pay is equal to what Ronaldo get in Real Madrid... PJB is reaping the success of his past years works in Japan. Why leave now ? Is not it better to enjoy the fruits of your labour there...
     
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    No, it is not back to square one. TAM is still the supremo and that irritates Rashid.
    I still do not understand why LCW wants to have a serious talk with BAM before making any decision. He is playing a dangerous game because the new change-over his none of his business. Doesn't he realize that he is leaving behind a nation on the verge of extinction? He should forget about helping coaches close to him and should instead take the position of 'what would I do if I have absolute power to bring Malaysian badminton to be no.1'? Do you thinks he can think out of the box of a player and into a supremo?
    Has he ever considered taking TAM's role? The view from the top is very different from the view at the players/coaches lower level.
     
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    Corrected version.
     
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    totally agree.

    TAM is in the best position to command the ship. his rice bowl is not dependant on being nice to any parties so he can get down to business and run the show without any distractions.
     
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    Looks like the circus is back in town. The new BAM president has pulled his total support for TAM, forcing the latter to quit. Obviously, it is back to the old ways. It is one step forward and two steps backward.
    Obviously, BAM does not have a boss who can think out of the box or the guts to do what is to be done to save Malaysian badminton.
    Perhaps there is some hidden hand, a very powerful and maybe political one, that is at play.
     
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    Sigh...lost for words.
     
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    What the.....?
     
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    Surprise surprise....
    Change and Malaysia does not belong in the same sentence!
     

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