Is the VRC worth it for a teen?

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  1. wood_22_chuck

    wood_22_chuck Regular Member

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    From VRC's website, his credentials are:

    Ximing Yao

    * 2005 World Masters Mens Doubles Champion 45+
    * 2002 World Masters Mens Doubles Champion
    * 2000 Canadian Masters Doubles 40+ Champion
    * 1999 Canadian Masters Doubles 35+ & 40+Champion
    * 1998 Portland Nike World Master Doubles 35+ & 40+ Champion
    * 1996 Canadian Masters Doubles 35+ & 40+ Champion
    * 1995 Canadian Masters Singles 35+ Champion
    * 1986 US Open Doubles Champion
    * 1980/83 Chinese National Doubles Champion
    * 1982 Asia Games Champion
    * 1982 Thomas Cup Champion
    * 1981 World Games Doubles Champion

    -dave
     
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    But have you noticed that absolutely NO-WHERE in any VRC documentation credits him with ANY junior achievements! While the head coach has produced 65 Canadian Junior Titles (from the VRC website). So really, what is any good about these assistant coaches - they have absolutely NO coaching acheivements to claim!!!

     
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    I understand the head coach has influence in VRC and VRC publications.

    Maybe some enterprising VRC-ian can start a thread (or add to this one) paying tribute to the unsung assistant coaches. There must be some Jrs which has risen through the ranks under Ming's/Xian's charge, but not getting any honor mention.

    Merely a suggestion.

    -dave
     
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    intimidation - it will be easier said than done. current juniors will not speak up for fear of losing their playing privileges, and fear of retribution when it comes to seeding and tournament placement. the assistant coaches will fear for their jobs - there's still not much activity in Canada that will offer them what they are currently paid.
    former juniors - well, if they haven't spoken up by now, they really don't have the guts to admit it at all!
     
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    The guy/gal probably got it wrong unintentionally :). Coach Ming used to coach at OCBC but his wifey pulled him out of L.A. due to the amount of driving from one place to another. From what I heard, his ex-partner stayed at OCBC.

     
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    I'm having a hard time gauging how badrad really feels about this topic. Are you actually saying you're not a fan of the head coach?

    I am so dead the next time we're on court together.

    -dave
     
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    Fair enough. I was a little harsh. Another thread started by same member calls Ming a world olympic champion. His credentials look fine as they are and everyone here is vouching for his coaching ability, which is more important anyway. Hence, I don't see the need for embellishments that are so easily proven false.
     
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    i prefer people tell it like it is, with all the guts and bloods. If we want badminton to prosper, we need expose the dead woods and let anyone compete on merit. I didnt find any BS said by flyingbird007
     
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    for those that know me and the family, you will know this issue runs very deep and personal. there is a lot of bad blood here. but it's refreshing for me to hear everyone else's take on this.
     
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    He is a fine coach but getting old - joints and muscles. I feel very sorry for him having to stand the B.S. that the head coach throws around for more than fifteen years. Talk about life wasted!!! This should be a classic organizational behaviour case study for the business undergraduates :D.

     
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    Well, fine, it's just me being pedantic. I am protesting at calling someone with already fine credentials an Olympic champion when everyone knows that isn't true. Badminton wasn't even in the Olympics 15 years ago. Tell it like it is - sure. But this is clearly a case of telling part of it like it isn't. It just so happens that flyingbird's claims have been more or less backed up by other members of this forum. Were that not the case, having provably false embellishments in the posting would have given people unfamiliar with the situation reason to doubt. I've already admitted that calling it BS was harsh.
     
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    :) Yes, the C2 Advanced lessons are a lot of fun. The coaches are very good at their jobs. They also have one Chinese-Indonesian coach (immigrated to Canada six months ago, I think).
     
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    Calvin-too many stories
    Ming- I've heard that he plays better than teaching
    Wow, we're really sort of off topic, but anyways, i think that if you really like to play badminton, its worth joining the club
     
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    Do you take lessons there?
     
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    Yes, I did. I will be going back to take their private lessons.
     
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    Cool!! Which class are you in?
    Btw, correction to make, Ronne *the coach at C2* is Indonesian. He was the assistant coach of the Indonesian National team. Another piece of info, he knows Taufik Hidayat personally.
     
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    oh snap! he knows taufik...XD
     
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    He was an assistant coach of the national team? That's incredible. I met him once. He said he was a Chinese Indonesian. He also said he came here six months ago. I guess I misinterpreted that he immigrated here six months ago. I took the adult advanced lesson. Our instructor was Darryl. I heard a rumor that the Indonesian coach has a long waiting list of people who try to take private lessons from him.
     
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    Well, I'm not surprised. He seems to be a really good coach, if he weren't, Darryl wouldn't hire him. I was very surprised when I heard he knew Taufik. My eyes bugged -----------> :eek:
     
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    Haha...nice name drop! Taufik has been my favourite badminton player since before 2004...anyone who knows or is associated with Taufik is a demi-god in my mind:p
     

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