Kido-Setiawan's problem

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  1. badMania

    badMania Regular Member

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    Well-said :)

    However, the record of 0-6 is really too much to bear now....it's gonna be 0-7 this week, unless either pair lost early :cool:

    Kido/Hendra also have never won against Clark/Blair :eek:
     
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    Terima Kasih, Satay for you.:)
     
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    Why not experiment with new partnership for MK/HS to find a super pair to battle against KKK/Tbh?Rexy was brave enough to experiment.How about finding a new partner for Markis Kido or Hendra Setiawan?
     
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    I guess they pop up occasionally to win something big like the WC and it then becomes unreasonable to split them.
     
  5. badMania

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    With the Olympics less than 1 year away, it will be unwise to split them up. Anyway, there won't be any better pair in Pelatnas :cool:
     
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    Thanks :) It has been a long time since I have some satay.
     
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    yeah, 6-0 is a bit of a drubbing.
    now they'll be facing a mental battle as well as a physical one, it's hard to maintain your confidence if you know you've lost the last 6 matches straight against a particular opponent.

    i don't think there's any need to split up MK/HS, their combination has proven successful against all the other MD pairs (except for KKK/TBH and AC/RB, by the way, how many times have they lost to AC/RB?).
    i reckon they just need to overcome the 'fear factor' of playing against KKK/TBH, they certainly have the ability to beat them.
     
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    markis kido/hendra setiawan

    firstly they are great players, but i think the factor is their game style kido is basicly the smashin man and setiawan is the rest but their games have like gaps wherer koo and tan can exploit easily because of their playin styles.but they have 2 change their hold game cause koo and tan are like all round players but if you compare them head 2 head kido and tan ? or setiawan or kean kiat ? kido obviosly on tan except tan is a lil faster and kean kiat is faster than setiwan but setiawan has more skill.there is olso this speed factor.but kido and setiwan are amazing and they have betta personalities that koo and tan kido and setiawan are very friendly and good and stuff but that doesnt effect you on court sadly.and they have 2 be serious because when they play they have 2 switch strategy while koo and tan just play normal cause their faster
     
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    That will be too late by now. Next year is the Olympics. The last thing they'll want to do is to split up the partnership.
     
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    yeah

    all they can do is go back 2 the training court work on new play think out strategyies
     
  11. badMania

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    Mentally, it can be a burden. Ask Ye Zhaoying when she had that losing streak against Susi Susanti. The official record is 8-2 (including streaks of 3 and 5 consecutive wins) from Jan 93 to Jan 95, but I am sure there are several team matches as well between those 2 years :cool:

    Bang Soo Hyun (another top WS player and Olympic Silver Medallist in Barcelona 1992, Gold Medallist in Atlanta 1996) had an even worse record against Susi, losing 8 consecutive times between Jan 93 and Jul 95 :eek: Only after that she managed to win 3 times against Susi (excluding the win at the SF of Atlanta Olympics).

    Kido/Hendra lost twice (All England and World Championships 2006) to Clark/Blair.
     
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    have clark/blair split up?

    blair was playing with lindley, even though clark's fit .... unless of course clark is concentrating on XD.
     
  13. badMania

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    Another example will be the great Kim Dong Moon/Ra Kyung Min vs Zhang Jun/Gao Ling. The official record is 10-3 to Kim/Ra, including 2 and 7 straight victories right up to the Sydney 2000 and Athens 2004. Yet, we all know who won both Olympics :cool:
     
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    Koo/Tan's best performances were in the Asian Games and All-England. The rest of the tournaments, they weren't at their best, though they did manage to win more titles.

    Fu and Cai weren't that great either this week. They were totally out of sorts against the aged Danes, even the usually dependable Cai was making simple errors. They played better losing out to Choong/Lee in World Championships.

    In fact, Eriksen/Lundgaard should have taken the match in straight games. Excellent performance from the old men, one wonders if ever any younger Danish pair will take their place. Maybe Boe/Mogensen, but they just got back.
     
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    The Sidek brothers had similar problems as Kido/Setiawan, they never managed to beat Park Joo Bong/Kim Moon Soo initially. But through persistence, they finally did win a few times, so I am pretty sure one day Kido/Setiawan will manage to upstage Koo/Tan.
     
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    The good news is that Clark/blair wont play together...as far as I know.....
    MK/HS needs to be a bit relax when facing KKK/TBh as they have nothing to lose...in DO...Joko/hendra played much better against KKK/TBH as these 2 are taller so their service is bit higher....
     
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    Yeah.. Maybe Markis' height is a problem..
     
  18. badMania

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    The root of the problem is perhaps the serves? Koo/Tan's serves are certainly of a higher quality than Kido/Hendra :cool:
     
  19. samuel882

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    I do not think Feng Yun Looks such fragile in their SF match.. what they mainly lack of is probably their fighting spirits , the area which usually haunted them :cool:
    Anyway, the thread is about MK/HS. so..... ;)
     
  20. Lennethe

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    i think MK/HS just need time just like KKK/TBH did before, did you guys remember how BAO defeat LCW in WC even he never defeat LCW in the previous matches.
    abuthen.......i still support MAS players = =
     

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